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Deletion

I say keep. This is note-worthy because it involved the NBA's leading scorer, and yes, in other sports other brawls also have their own pages, not just the Pacer-Piston brawl, such as the Red Wings-Avalanche brawl 1997. JesseRafe 11:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how the two fights compare, but that's my opinion. I'm not against creating pages dedicated to sports brawls or instances of hooliganism, but just because it involves Carmelo Anthony shouldn't make a difference. Should we then create a page for every fight hereafter that SportsCenter dedicates more than a minute of coverate to? 67.46.0.13 11:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are fights and there are brawls, and a brawl such as this one where every player on the court gets ejected is notable. Not only that, but it is an event which reference can be made to in the future, so it is good to have an anchor to begin it with. Let's wait a few days and see how drastic the suspensions will be. And, yes, a dozen or so game suspension to Carmelo Anthony does make a difference because it is Carmelo Anthony. Being the NBA leading scorer is fairly significant, it's not like he's Stephen Jackson who is known pretty much only for his brawling. JesseRafe 12:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They're going to be discussing this brawl after the season is over. By definition, that makes it significant.JAF1970 20:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Nuggets acquiring Iverson makes this a must keep now. JAF1970 04:12, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitly keep for now. We'll see how the incident plays out in the coming days. Crumbsucker 20:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, keep for now. If the punishments come down and they aren't that severe, then I don't see a reason to keep this, as it wouldn't be any more noteworthy than other fights. Darry2385 20:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely keep, because this is going to have a potent effect on the NBA, no matter what the punishments are. When news reports, ESPN, CNNSI, etc are all putting this brawl into a history context for an NBA, then you know it's worthy of its own article. JAF1970 20:53, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and a PS, you already have that cloud over Isiah Thomas' head here in New York City, and his part of basically destroying any organization for which he worked in the front office for -- add this to his similar actions earlier this year, his job status, and his past as a "Bad Boy"... JAF1970 20:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP. Though I'm a Nuggets fan, this is an important chapter in the history of the Nuggets. Interestingly, A.I. was introduced just days after Melo was suspended. Think about it. WizardDuck 20:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be deleted. It was not nearly infamous enough to warrant its own page and is since almost completely forgotten by many. The brawl itself was also hardly anything serious. The only notable thing was a 15 game suspension for Carmelo Anthony is noted on his own page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.208.77 (talk) 11:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Addition

Please add into the first paragraph of "The brawl" of something I learned from a brief interview of Stephen A. Smith on Sportscenter. Smith believes a factor that led to the brawl was George Karl's displeasure at the Knicks for firing Larry Brown, a long-time friend.

That's pretty much what I've been hearing about Karl's reasoning to keeping his starters in, as well. FamicomJL 20:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chunk O' Stuff

I've been a busy little bee. Let me know what you think. ;) JAF1970 18:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possible missing info

Since this was already the second and final meeting of the season between the 2 teams, the prelude section could use mention of the meeting between the 2 teams during the first month of the season in Denver in which NY won 109-107. What does everyone else think? Ranma9617 02:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A brief mention is possible, but just brief. JAF1970 22:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This is a reasonably well written article. I've added some minor copyedits, but overall it is very solid. The fair use rationale for the image of Isiah on the Daily News should be reviewed, but because it is of such low resolution and appropriately reflects one of the more controversial aspects involved here, it seems OK to use. Great work! Zodiiak (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Note: The fair use rationale for the image of Isiah on the Daily News is a bit lacking but seems OK to use.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Player/team changes

The players that were suspended should be listed as belonging to the teams they were in at the time, not currently, on the table in the reactions section. Nate Robinson, for example, should be listed as being a part of the Knicks, not the Celtics. This is how the table on the Pacers-Pistons Brawl page is structured and it makes more sense this way.

Dmasta (talk) 05:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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"No fans came onto the court"

I [1] the mention that "no fans came onto the court...." and that it didn't escalate like some other brawl, and then it was reverted. I disagree with the inclusion of this non-event. There also weren't any shots fired, any lions releaed, nor any ballons popped. Lots of things didn't happen. And there is no source indicating that it is particularly notable that the event didn't resemble some other incident. This is just original research and should be removed. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 16:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given no one has come to the defense of including this non-event that isn't sourced as being notable, I've again removed mention that "no fans came onto the court". If there's a citation out there noting that is remarkable that fans didn't come onto the court, then we can consider including this (otherwise it is original research/commentary). --ZimZalaBim ^talk 15:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]