Talk:Universitas Klabat
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On 20 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Klabat University to Universitas Klabat. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Requested move 20 November 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Despite the concerns raised again the proposer, there is a sufficient consensus on the basis of WP:COMMONNAME to move. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Klabat University → Universitas Klabat – The proposed name change from "Klabat University" to "Universitas Klabat" is necessary to align with the official name used by the institution in all formal and legal contexts. "Universitas Klabat" is the recognized and registered name in Indonesia, reflecting its identity and adherence to national naming conventions for higher education institutions. Updating the title ensures accuracy, consistency, and better representation of the university's official branding and communication. Unklabwebmaster (talk) 08:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. @Unklabwebmaster: Welcome to Wikipedia. As a heads-up, though, you've phrased your move request in a way that is not very convincing. Wikipedia is not the PR department of this university, so it's really not our problem to "better represent the university's official branding and communication." And telling people to do it for that reason is more likely to annoy them. What you will want to do is perform a WP:COMMONNAME analysis instead. How do English-langauge sources (not Indonesian or Malay-language sources) refer to the University, such as newspaper articles or mentions in books? Do you have some sample links? That would be much more helpful to decide the matter. SnowFire (talk) 18:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support. A simple Google test for "Klabat University -wikipedia" and "Universitas Klabat -wikipedia" has 5x the hits for the latter. This isn't a particularly deep analysis, but given that the university's website itself uses "Universitas", and that this is Latin rather than Indonesian, suggests not translating it. SnowFire (talk) 14:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Against the person who is asking for the name change is violating Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest, they work at this university. Catfurball (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Catfurball: I agree that the stated reason is ineffective and unconvincing, but note that Unklabwebmaster is a Wikipedia newbie, so this shouldn't exactly be held too much against them. A proposal can be correct but for different reasons than stated. Even if Unklabwebmaster's !vote is entirely discarded, per above, I think there is a COMMONNAME case for the move regardless. SnowFire (talk) 19:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support. On Google Scholar search, I get "about 951 results" for "Universitas Klabat" (with quotes) and 203 for "Klabat University". Which, like SnowFire says, is not a deep analysis, but I'm not sure what is the affirmative case in favour of Klabat University. Adumbrativus (talk) 00:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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