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Difference between submachinegun and carbine

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@HJ_Mitchell Regardless of if the H&K MP5s used by British police are locked to semi-automatic only, the weapon is still a submachinegun and not a carbine. A "carbine" is a shortened version of a longer weapon, generally a full-size rifle.



Whilst I see that British police refer to them as "carbines" in their nomenclature, are they modifying the length of the weapon? If not, does their preferred terminology really take priority over the actual categorization of the firearm? Aorclippy (talk) 17:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know enough about firearms to get into the distinctions but it seems misleading to me to describe a single-shot weapon as a submachine gun, certainly without further clarification. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:02, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose I can see why it might be seen as misleading, especially given the fact that the primary intended function of a submachinegun is, generally, to fire automatically. But it's definitely not a carbine unless they, for some reason, are chopping down the already short MP5, for no good reason.
Do you suppose "semi-automatic only MP5" would work as a compromise? Seems a bit wordy but it avoids the issue of categorizing the weapon and identifies how it differs from a regular MP5. Aorclippy (talk) 12:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]