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[edit]- "Khati." In People of India: Maharashtra, edited by Kumar Suresh Singh, 994-1003. 2nd ed. Vol. XXX. Mumbai: Anthropological Survey of India, 2004.--Jo.wong (talk) 05:25, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Chandravanshi Khati is an Indian caste.[3][4] Its members live mainly in and around the Malwa region of Madhya Pradesh ( The region includes the Madhya Pradesh districts of ,Indore, Dewas, Dhar, Mandsaur, Neemuch, Shajapur, Ujjain, and parts of and Sehore.). the people of the Khati caste are beautiful and fair complexion i.e. fair complexion, Kshatriya Khati society is mainly native of Abhepur and Nabhepur of Jammu and Kashmir and even today Chandravanshi people cultivate saffron in the Himalayan region.[citation needed] Their main language is Malwi, and the caste is mostly engaged in the agricultural sector. They appears to be taller and Fairer. Less amount of The Khati lives in the parts of India, including Rajasthan, Punjab, Uttarakhand, and Himachal Pradesh.
Chandravanshi Khati Samaj is the son of Sahastrabahu / Sahastrarjun, the presiding deity of the society is Lord Jagdish, Kuldevi is Mahagauri Ashtami, Kuldev is Bhairav Dev and Aaradhya Dev is Bhole Shankar. Khati society is a caste born from the blessings of Lord Parshuram Ji, The couplets are famous for the society - "North Desi Patak Original: Nabhar Nabhaypur Re, Chandravansh Seva Kari, Shakar Sada Sahay" and "Chandravansham Gokulnandam Jayati" Chandravanshi khati samaj is known is Kashmiri pandit. Khatiboy (talk) 05:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Khati is an Indian Caste.. Originally belongs to Jammu and Kashmir and named as Kashmiri Pandits.. Right now they are staying in cities of Madhya pradesh named as. Indore, Dewas, Ujjain, Dhar ,Bhopal, Sehore etc etc... People of this caste are fair in colour and decent looking and well mannerd According to histories. They fought the battle with Allauddin Khilji and won against tht time emprors of Madhya Pradesh. So in return the Empror wants the khati samajh to rule these places in mp but.. Khati samjh is basically Farmers so they aaked for lands to do farming.. Since then the khati samajh is doing farming in mp..... I just hope u will like this small info. About khati samaj. Ankit Choudhary. Vill. Bhangarh. Dewas mp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankit9098 (talk • contribs)
- We need a reliable source before we can add this to the article. utcursch | talk 15:17, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Ankit chaudhary 😅 like what .. kashmiri ? Shard008 (talk) 05:30, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Khati
[edit]Khati is a cast . He living in rajasthan, punjab ,Haryana and other state.jangid and suthar surname of khati. 80% khati is farmer.20% sarkari job and business men.khati is a power full cast .
Chandravanshiya Khati Caste
[edit]Chandravanshi Khati is an Indian caste.[3][4] Its members live mainly in and around the Malwa region of Madhya Pradesh ( The region includes the Madhya Pradesh districts of ,Indore, Dewas, Dhar, Mandsaur, Neemuch, Shajapur, Ujjain, and parts of and Sehore.). the people of the Khati caste are beautiful and fair complexion i.e. fair complexion, Kshatriya Khati society is mainly native of Abhepur and Nabhepur of Jammu and Kashmir and even today Chandravanshi people cultivate saffron in the Himalayan region.[citation needed] Their main language is Malwi, and the caste is mostly engaged in the agricultural sector. They appears to be taller and Fairer. Less amount of The Khati lives in the parts of India, including Rajasthan, Punjab, Uttarakhand, and Himachal Pradesh.
Chandravanshi Khati Samaj is the son of Sahastrabahu / Sahastrarjun, the presiding deity of the society is Lord Jagdish, Kuldevi is Mahagauri Ashtami, Kuldev is Bhairav Dev and Aaradhya Dev is Bhole Shankar. Khati society is a caste born from the blessings of Lord Parshuram Ji, The couplets are famous for the society - "North Desi Patak Original: Nabhar Nabhaypur Re, Chandravansh Seva Kari, Shakar Sada Sahay" and "Chandravansham Gokulnandam Jayati" Chandravanshi khati samaj is known is Kashmiri pandit. Khatiboy (talk) 12:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
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change dalit to obc 103.3.204.132 (talk) 02:26, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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Khatis are backward classes not dalit or scheduled castes. Kindly rectify it Mnaguran (talk) 13:48, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Jangra or Khati in Haryana, Punjab, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Uttarpradesh, Himachal, Uttrakhand and Jammu Kashmir, Bihar, Aasam, West Bengal, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand are considerably political influencing communities. They had been in engineering, carpentry, civil works, construction works, architecture and agriculture works. They have excelled in some of fileds. Mnaguran (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Khati is not a dalit caste in India. It is home maker and wood works, designer, architecture hardworking community. Mnaguran (talk) 09:38, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
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Khati
[edit]Khati is vishwakarma caste. Which does carpentry and included in OBC.
[1]https://books.google.co.in/books?id=EFzkAAAAMAAJ&q=khati+vishwakarma&dq=khati+vishwakarma&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&ov2=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj909ar6eD_AhUi7jgGHcxfCWQQ6wF6BAgGEAU#khati%20vishwakarma
[2]https://books.google.co.in/books?id=uw8wAQAAIAAJ&q=khati+vishwakarma&dq=khati+vishwakarma&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&ov2=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj909ar6eD_AhUi7jgGHcxfCWQQ6wF6BAgKEAU#khati%20vishwakarma PeaceMatters992 (talk) 11:35, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
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Hello Sir khati is a carpenter caste which is included in vishwakarma. And a vishwakarma is not dalit.vishwakarma has brahmin origin Which is socially active ,rich and forward caste it is group of community like Goldsmith,Bronzesmith,Ironsmith,Stonemason and Carpenter included in OBC centrally. OBC is group of people who are Socially forward but through education and Income they are backward. Whereas Dalits are Garbage picker,Latrine cleaner, Gutter cleaners socially Untouchables which are included in ST/ST.Scheduled caste are socially untouchable. So the information provided in this page is totally incorrect. Please Help me by providing correct information.
Sutradhar (caste)--
Vishwakarma (caste) PeaceMatters992 (talk) 04:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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Hello sir/mam The information provided on this page is completely Wrong and it appears to be on revengeful/ Biased purpose. Its totally defamation of Khati caste by calling them dalits. Khati is a Rich, respected, Socially and politically active caste which comes under Vishwakarma caste which has brahmin Origin.People of this caste are Carpenters and agriculturist (land owners) included in OBC. OBC itself states that this caste is Socially and economically Forward as well as respected.
whereas Dalits are Untouchables who work lowly as garbage pickier,Latrine cleaner,Animal skin collector, gutter cleaners. included in ST/SC scheduled caste or tribe who are socially unacceptable and untouable. Educationally as well economy very poor.
So sir/mam information on this page is complete incorrect/biased and illegal.Done totally on revengeful purpose.
Reference for khati is vishwakarma are
Sutradhar (caste) Vishwakarma (caste) PeaceMatters992 (talk) 07:34, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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please
Khati is not dalit caste it is carpenter caste. Which is Vishwakarma caste.
"Change Dalit to Artisan caste"
Reference
PeaceMatters992 (talk) 15:10, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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"Change Dalit to Artisan caste"
Khati (sutradhar) is a vishwakarma caste which is Forward, Rich and socially well accepted caste.Khati is included in OBC.
whereas
Dalit are Outcaste and untouchable. included in SC/ST.
REFERENCE
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=aH3aAAAAMAAJ&q=Khati+vishwakarma&dq=Khati+vishwakarma&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&ov2=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjc5J2H1uL_AhWHSmwGHTXICkg4FBDrAXoECAoQBQ#Khati%20vishwakarma PeaceMatters992 (talk) 03:38, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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"Change Dalit to Vishwakarma caste"
Khati is vishwakarma caste which work as carpenter and farmer in haryana/Rajasthan/Punjab.This is Forward,Rich and socially hospitable caste.Included in OBC
Dalit are untouchables included in SC/ST.
Reference
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=aH3aAAAAMAAJ&q=Khati+vishwakarma&dq=Khati+vishwakarma&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks redir=0&source=gb mobile search&ovdme=1&ov2=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjc5J2H1uL AhWHSmwGHTXICkg4FBDrAXoECAoQBQ PeaceMatters992 (talk) 16:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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Here are changes i propose as article makes completely no sense by calling khati caste a dalit. Both are hugely Different community. Therefore article is defameing khati caste and is biased.
Khati are vishwakarma by caste and brahmins only.
"Change Dalit to skillful"
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[3]https://books.google.co.in/books?id=MlJFAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA168&dq=artisan+caste+of+india+Khati&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks redir=0&source=gb mobile search&ovdme=1&ov2=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwip1ae14OP AhVMPHAKHeB5C9kQ6wF6BAgCEAU
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=aH3aAAAAMAAJ&q=Khati+vishwakarma&dq=Khati+vishwakarma&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks redir=0&source=gb mobile search&ovdme=1&ov2=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjc5J2H1uL AhWHSmwGHTXICkg4FBDrAXoECAoQBQ PeaceMatters992 (talk) 00:53, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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usage of dalit here is controversial completely. Jangid Brahmins or jangras as usually stated in haryana are different than khati as well. Kindly know the difference and change it. It's the work they did as they got laid off of their professions they used to practice earlier. Shard008 (talk) 20:53, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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- 1. remove he word, 'dalit carpenter class' from explanation
- 2. Jangra (haryana) or jangid (rajasthan) has come from one of the Saptrishis (7 rishis), Angiras=angir=jangir, where called jangid in Rajasthan and due to language accent called jangra in haryana.
- 3. Due to the works mostly people did in previous eras where they got discarded off their works i.e architecture & art, in constitutional premises laid as in obcs like other brahmin castes like bhargav Shard008 (talk) 05:44, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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Khati is not a dalit caste. It is one of the superior caste of haryana. Due to its weak economical conditions it is categorised as obc. Hartyard (talk) 17:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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Please delete Dalit word from it as it is wrong Someone from haryana (talk) 09:16, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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Regarding called dalit
[edit]We are not a Dalit you can see our community in MP Kashmir and Uttarakhand and why you said that khati is Dalit so please remove Dalit word from this site. If you are not remove it I complaint against this site on cyber and court. thanks 103.217.244.65 (talk) 01:26, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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Jangra are brahmins and do work of carpentry and anyone who do carpentry is know as khati Khati is not a caste. Jangra as amongs one of the highest caste. The second highest caste according to hindus after pandits is Jangra brahmin 202.173.126.122 (talk) 22:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Khati is a carpenter caste found primarily in Haryana. They are classified as an Other Backward Class caste, and use Jangra or Jangir title but not all Jangras are khati, some are Brahmin and some are Vishwakarma too.[1][2]
References
- ^ S. K. Chandhoke (1990). Nature and Structure of Rural Habitations. Concept Publishing Company. pp. 98–99. ISBN 978-81-7022-253-8.
- ^ Paramjit S. Judge (13 March 2014). Mapping Social Exclusion in India: Caste, Religion and Borderlands. Cambridge University Press. pp. 202–203. ISBN 978-1-107-05609-1.
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2402:8100:27E9:89B2:1B62:CA6A:E4E7:2E92 (talk) 05:09, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Khati from uttarakhand are different (khati from haryana are different than uttarakhand)
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Merger
[edit]Hi ! @Cannolis
I propose merging Khati & Jangidas a single article. Under WP:Reduntant
These two articles Khati & Jangid are of same subject & can be merged for good length article. In this page Khati sources are not reliable but the sources in Jangid can be used in the latest article. Hemraj108 (talk) 11:59, 12 January 2024 (UTC)