Talk:Kevin McAleenan

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Temporary lock?

Should the article be locked to to only registered users? Dust (talk) 22:21, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Acting Secretary

There is some question as to whether McAleenan is the Acting Secretary. Someone removed a "citation needed" template that was in the infobox, because they added a Fox News source... but the Fox source only said that Trump announced that he would be (they used the term "revealed"), and that is true, but Trump is not a reliable source. --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He's not the acting secretary until (at least) April 11. After submitting the resignation, Nielsen and Trump announced that she would stay on until the 10th, presumably until this gets cleared up. Sławomir Biały (talk) 11:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, he's not acting secretary until (at least) April 10, subject to whether or not Secretary Nielsen's resignation takes effect at close of business or not. —Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 19:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Timing Issues, Deputy Commissioner Start Date, etc.

Forgive me for this, but I can't pass over a mystery involving time.

First, a few facts: Kevin McAleenan currently serves as Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). He was sworn in on March 20, 2018. He began serving in his position in an acting capacity on January 20, 2017.

Two questions:

1. If McAleenan was serving as Deputy Commissioner at that time, even if his official biography at CBP notes that he served "until his appointment to Acting Commissioner [i.e., January 20, 2017]", should I change the start/end dates to reflect his serving as deputy commissioner until he was sworn in as Commissioner on a permanent basis? This would be in line with common practice here on Wikipedia, and would further consistency among articles; but it would contradict the official biography.

2. It is a fact that Commissioner McAleenan served as Deputy Commissioner until 2017 or 2018, when he became acting Commissioner or Commissioner on a permanent basis. When he started, however, is (also) at issue: while the official CBP biography (see above) notes that he began on November 2, 2014, I dug a bit further back and found an old press release from DHS, stating that McAleenan was sworn in (as Deputy Commissioner) on March 18, 2015, and that "Mr. McAleenan served as the acting Deputy Commissioner since March 30, 2013." I'm not sure which date is correct, and which date should be used in the article. Moreover, however, I cannot find reliable sources for the latter date. So I'm a bit stuck in that regard, as well.

Help would be appreciated. —Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 19:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox problems

Now that the GAO has found that McAleenan was not actually Acting Secretary... how do we handle the infobox. I mean, he was acting Acting Secretary, I suppose. Would "designate" do? --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in favor of holding off on making any changes before the Inspector General weighs in, but perhaps adding "de facto" on a new line might help? I don't know. — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 16:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]