Talk:Kevin Beattie/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kosack (talk · contribs) 08:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I'll have a look at this one, will post a review as soon as possible. Kosack (talk) 08:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 13:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Initial review

Infobox

• What's the source for his height? Ref 14 appears to support it but, as it's not mentioned in the main text, a inline citation here is probably required.

Ref added to infobox. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Lead

• "Beattie died in 2018", do we need this? His date of death is already listed at the start of the lead and there's no real context to this.

Removed. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

• Link England to the national team in the last paragraph.

Linked. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Early life

• Could probably link goalkeeper in relation to his father here. All other positions are linked through the article.

Linked. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

• "erroneously told that he was not a Catholic", can we briefly explain why that was important? A reader unfamiliar with Scottish football would probably be completely unaware why that was relevant.

Attempted to add an explanatory note. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Club

• I would perhaps mention what division Beattie was playing at with Ipswich earlier in this section. The level he was playing at isn't mentioned until halfway through the fifth paragraph.

Noted. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

• Could link FA Cup and UEFA Cup in the fifth paragraph, first time they are mentioned outside the lead.

Linked. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

• It would be nice for some extra info on the last few clubs of his career but, I'm guessing that this is down to the actual availability of information. Not a sticking point for GA but could be something to think about if you look to take this up to FA.

I have looked, quite extensively, and can only find the passing mentions in reliable sources of the latter clubs... I fear this may be it, in toto. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

International

• Perry Groves is linked in the playing style section below but not here. Link the first mention here rather than the later one.

Linked (and relationship to Beattie moved) first time. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Incidents and controversies

• "missed a portion of the 1977 season", seasons are typically spread over two years, the link itself is 1976–77.

Fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Death

• Could this section be merged with the post-football section perhaps? Seems unnecessary to have a separate sub-section for a single sentence.

Merged. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

References

• No issues with references as far as I can see, all formatted well.

Bravo, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Categories

• Norwich City F.C. non-playing staff and Kongsberg IF managers are included here but there's no mention of either in the text?

So far, only non-RS source for the NCFC connection, thoughts? I'm taking the Kongsberg manager category out for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Personally, I wouldn't go against it if you included that source. An argument could certainly be made in favour of it being reliable given the site's longevity, relatively widespread use on other articles and it is included on WP:FOOTBALL's useful links. It would also appear that Steve Whitlam's work is used and even promoted by the club itself, see HERE. Kosack (talk) 12:09, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

I started making notes on this one earlier in the week but Mattythewhite took care of most of the issues I originally found so there's little else I can really find. A few minor issues and suggestions above but this is a well written piece. Placed on hold for now to look at the comments above. Kosack (talk) 14:52, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Kosack thanks, will try to get to these later today. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Kosack addressed all your comments, thanks. Sorry it took a few days longer than I'd hoped. Let me know what you think. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: No worries, I'm happy with all of your above comments. I've left a note on the Norwich City non-playing staff category, let me know if you intend to add the information or not just so I can finish up with passing this. Kosack (talk) 12:09, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Kosack I think I'm done? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:23, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Happy to promote this, I'm certain that it comfortably meets the relevant GA criteria. Kosack (talk) 12:27, 10 October 2018 (UTC)