Talk:Keel-billed toucan

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Pets

Hi, I think that the statements of user 72.80.177.121 is encouraging keeping this birds as pets. Just look at his contributions : very often the same for many birds. It looks like a commercial. MottoM 07:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point, thanks for adjusting it. -- Nataly a 00:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think information about zookeeping and domesticizing should not be recused but it should come from zoo technicians and be well sourced... or recused ;-)MottoM 07:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because we don't want to encourage people to do something that would hurt them. -- Nataly a 10:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is Wikepedia encouraging the extraction and caging of tropical birds? Maybe some of them are not endangered species, but they are normally illegally extracted.

Sound description

'RRRRK'? Is that supposed to help people understand anything? Could be a dog growling. Kutera Genesis 15:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True.. the sound kind of makes sense when you hear it, but isn't particularly helpful as a description. I'll take it down, and perhaps we can find a sound clip. -- Natalya 17:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable text

I have removed the assertion that the colloquial term "bill bird" can refer also to hornbills, since, in context, the assertion is ludicrous. A problem remains, however: if this bird is the national bird of Belize it seems likely that the statement that it is a South American bird is incorrect, or only partially correct. 71.87.23.22 (talk) 19:40, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It says "South American bird" in the first paragraph, when in fact keel-billed toucans occur throughout central america and not really in South America, besides northern Colombia and a little bit into Venezuela. ~Tomes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.12.153.140 (talk) 20:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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@Loopy30: MOS:OVERLINK and WP:SOB refer to this kind of situation (when you have multiple consecutive links). Belize is a relatively little known country, and the link I added is seemingly even more so since it doesn't have an article yet. If you really insist then maybe you can remove the link to Latin America. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RandomCanadian, MOS:OVERLINK does not just deal with WP:SOB situations, but instead specifically recommends avoiding linking names of major geographic features and countries. The problem with the link now is that it is a bit of an Easter Egg. The reader may think that they are going to find more detail/explanation of the keel-billed toucan in the "Belize" article (which does not have any additional detail) or they may hover the cursor above it and expect to find further detail at a "National symbols of Belize" article (but they don't find that either because it redirects to the "Belize" article). Wiklinks are meant to aid the reader in finding additional information on a subject discussed in the article. When they do not achieve this, they are a form of mental distraction that forces the reader to pause (even subconsciously) and assess whether or not to click through to the link. If there is no actual additional information to be gained, then the wikilink serves only as an obstacle to the thought process of the reader. This is why even useful links can be deterimental if overused. Country articles generally do not add any additional information on a specific subject, especially a species of bird found there so their pages should not usually be linked to at the mention of the country name.

Also, Belize may be a small country, but as an English speaking member of the Commonwealth it is still widely known of by most English-speaking readers. Certainly, at least for eastern Canadians, it is a popular winter holiday destination that is offered by all major tour operators. 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 20:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Loopy30: Well, I don't know, from where I am, "snowbirds" more commonly go to places such Florida, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Mexico and the like. I am not so sure about OVERLINK because if its merely a "recommendation" and applying to the letter in each and every case would be nonsensical: we can assume that readers are "aware" of major countries and geographical and such, but there are some cases where a link is not a bad idea, even for an obvious topic (for example, linking to "Latin America" might be a good idea here). As for the "easter egg" you mention, the "obvious" (however, slightly time consuming) way to fix this is to find a couple of sources and make that redirect into a proper article. A quick search reveals a few interesting ones.

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"National Symbols". Government of Belize Press Office. "National Symbols Of Belize". Belize.com. "Belize National Symbols \| Flag \| Flower \| Tree \| Bird \| Animal". www.belmopanonline.com. McNab Editorial Team (23 November 2019). "National Symbols of Belize". Caribbean Culture and Lifestyle.

I don't know if I want to take the time to do this, but I'll put it on my to-do-list. In the meantime I have fixed the link to point on the redirect to point to the appropriate place in the article. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:05, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]