Talk:Katherine Rawls

Name and date

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Well, I don't think that Miss Rawls lost her second given name after her marriage with Mr. Thompson. And I don't think, that this needs any evidence. Anyway, the bigger problem is, that her DoB is not June 28, 1917, the correct DoB is June 14, 1918. See: [1], [2], [3], and [4] Thanks and :) Doma-w 00:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Nope.

1. Keeping her original middle name does indeed need evidence. In the United States it is common for a married woman to use her maiden name as her middle name, rather than having a double-barrelled surname; whether the original middle name is retained varies. The current wording should not be taken as implying "Louise" was definitely dropped; it merely states the married name as given in the citations.
2. the 1918 birthdate is definitely wrong. None of the sources you gave is reliable, and probably most copied the error from the other. The cite I gave for the 1917 date is a contemporary source which you have retained as a cite later in the article. Other cites in the article state she was 14 in 1931 15 in 1932, and 64 in April 1982.

It may be that all these sources are wrong, and HickokSports has unearthed obscure correct information: it also states her 1934 medley gold was a relay rather than an individual event. However, that needs more verification before I would take its word above that of Time and The New York Times. jnestorius^(talk) 10:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Social Security Death Index gives her birth date as June 14, 1917. [5] All the other sources I have seen, say the same day, but the year 1918. I have never seen June 28, except in that Time article. I think that June 14 is the correct birthdate of hers and she was born in 1917, not in 1918 as all the sources say. So what do you think? Gh 07:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice. I trust SSDI more, but still I've hedged the birthdate with a rather excruciating footnote. It's not up to us lowly Wikipedians to adjudicate between the options: (No Original research policy). We're stuck with telling readers it's unclear (unless a definitive reference comes up: a scan of her birth certificate? An interview transcription "I was born on June 14 1917..." ?) That's not to say the manner in which I've presented the data can't be improved.

PS re: her name, I have a slight suspicion her marriage didn't work out, but no evidence for that. In which case, she might have reverted to her maiden name, which was used in the NY Times obit. jnestorius^(talk) 20:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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