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improving the article.

@DiplomatTesterMan: among the concerns raised. I have fixed the copy editing. Please help to improve the sourcing issues. --DBig Xrayᗙ 09:09, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some references.... will add more if needed. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DiplomatTesterMan Looks good to me. you can state on the ITN nom page that the refs and copy editing has been done, ping the reviewer asking a fresh review. --DBig Xrayᗙ 14:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting questions

I did my best for additional copyediting. However, a few things that I wasn't clear on, even after checking references:

Not sure what it means when she "completed her post-graduation in English Literature". Is this a degree? "Post-graduation" is typically an adjective but it's being used here as a noun.
Not clear what it means that "police officers were not ready to register an FIR". (The abbreviation FIR is not used elsewhere in the article.)
What does "IPS officer's batch of 1973" mean? Is this the same thing as a graduating class, or the year she entered a training program?
What does it mean to be a second woman to join this batch? Was she one of two women in this "batch"? Or was she the second one to join following Bedi. Unclear what the timeline is for her to be the second if the "batch" is all in the same year. Additionally, this fact is not cited in the reference provided.

A few other things I couldn't find in refs and would be great to have if available:

What year was the "2nd Women in Police Conference" and where was it held?
What year was the "DGP's Annual Conference" that she presented at?
"She also investigated several white collar crimes in banks and public sectors": if there's any list of related names and companies to include here, that could add some additional meat.

Great work on improving the article. Best, Spencer^T•C 15:32, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's awesome how you went through the article in such detail. I will get back to you on all the points and accordingly make changes in the article by day-after. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 15:59, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ANSWERS

Not sure what it means when she "completed her post-graduation in English Literature". Is this a degree? "Post-graduation" is typically an adjective but it's being used here as a noun.
- Post graduation here refers to a Master of Arts (MA) degree. In this case, Kanchan Chaudhary Bhattacharya completed her MA in English Literature from Indraprastha College, Delhi University.^[1]^[2]^[3] I have added the (MA) accordingly to the text.
Not clear what it means that "police officers were not ready to register an FIR". (The abbreviation FIR is not used elsewhere in the article.)
- Here FIR stands for First Information Report - FIR. In lay terms, it means filing a case in a way. Removing the terrible citation^[4] that supports this claim. Other notable sources convey the same information such as The Times of India and The Week. But going by the publication dates of these sources, I think these (many) sources have just copied the information from Wikipedia. Another decent information source, The Print, tells an entirely different story - "Kanchan Chaudhary Bhattacharya decided to be a police officer after a palm reader urged her father to let her take the civil services exam." But I guess the best source is in an interview in 2014 where she explains in her own words as to what happened.^[5]^[6]
What does "IPS officer's batch of 1973" mean? Is this the same thing as a graduating class, or the year she entered a training program?
- It is the same thing as a graduating class. To say an "IPS officer is of wxyz batch" is a common feature among nearly all Indian Police Service Wikipedia biographies.
What does it mean to be a second woman to join this batch? Was she one of two women in this "batch"? Or was she the second one to join following Bedi. Unclear what the timeline is for her to be the second if the "batch" is all in the same year. Additionally, this fact is not cited in the reference provided.
- I have changed the matter since the only thing clear is "She was the second woman (after Kiran Bedi) to become an IPS officer." As far as the batches issue goes, Kiran Bedi was 1972 batch and Kanchan was 1973 batch.^[7] And in the 1973 batch Kanchan was the only female trainee.
2nd Women in Police Conference - 27 July 2005, Uttaranchal^[8]
DGP's Annual Conference - ???
She also investigated several white collar crimes in banks and public sectors - It was difficult to find information related to this, but I added a line "During her time as Assistant Superintendent of Police, Malihabad, Uttar Pradesh, she tracked down 13 dacoits in a single year." (for the meat).^[9]

Ping @Spencer:. I know it still needs more work but oh well... Regards DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 02:27, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into this and for improving the article with these details. While the article is a little late for Recent Deaths on ITN, it is in much better state than it was a month ago. Spencer^T•C 03:24, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "DU has a lot on its ladies special platter". India Today. 3 June 2009.
^ "About Kanchan Chaudhary Bhattacharya". streeshakti.com.
^ DU Alumni top cops. Delhi University.
^ "Kanchan Chaudhary Bhattacharya - Second IPS Officer of the country". IAS Paper. 2017-04-10. Retrieved 2017-10-28.
^ "Tribute: Kanchan Chaudhary, the Trailblazing IPS Officer Who was India's 1st Woman DGP". The Better India. 2019-08-27. Retrieved 2019-09-04.
^ "Kanchan Chaudhary: Life Sets No Limits, Only You Do!". LifeBeyondNumbers. 2014-09-12. Retrieved 2019-09-04.
^ Rana, Yudhvir (19 June 2004). "Kanchan joined them to beat them | Chandigarh News - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2019-09-04. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
^ Bhandare, Murlidhar C. (2010). Struggle for Gender Justice: Justice Sunanda Bhandare Memorial Lectures. APJ Abdul Kalam. Penguin Books India. pp. xii. ISBN 9780670084265.
^ "From corporate warriors to politicians, 30 Indian women who are front-liners of our times". India Today. 4 April 2005. Retrieved 2019-09-05.

[1] "DU has a lot on its ladies special platter". India Today. 3 June 2009.

[2] "About Kanchan Chaudhary Bhattacharya". streeshakti.com.

[3] DU Alumni top cops. Delhi University.

[4] "Kanchan Chaudhary Bhattacharya - Second IPS Officer of the country". IAS Paper. 2017-04-10. Retrieved 2017-10-28.

[5] "Tribute: Kanchan Chaudhary, the Trailblazing IPS Officer Who was India's 1st Woman DGP". The Better India. 2019-08-27. Retrieved 2019-09-04.

[6] "Kanchan Chaudhary: Life Sets No Limits, Only You Do!". LifeBeyondNumbers. 2014-09-12. Retrieved 2019-09-04.

[7] Rana, Yudhvir (19 June 2004). "Kanchan joined them to beat them | Chandigarh News - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 2019-09-04. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

[8] Bhandare, Murlidhar C. (2010). Struggle for Gender Justice: Justice Sunanda Bhandare Memorial Lectures. APJ Abdul Kalam. Penguin Books India. pp. xii. ISBN 9780670084265.

[9] "From corporate warriors to politicians, 30 Indian women who are front-liners of our times". India Today. 4 April 2005. Retrieved 2019-09-05.

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