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Section sizes in KK Crvena zvezda

Section size for KK Crvena zvezda (48 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	6,933	6,933
History	12	47,195
1945–1968: Early years and ten consecutive championship titles	938	938
1968–1972: Return to success	1,155	1,155
1972–1990: Continental competitions	1,625	1,625
1990–2002: Another comeback	1,724	1,724
2002–2011: "European Red Star" project, struggles	3,691	3,691
2011–2017: New era of success and Radonjić's titles	15,301	15,301
2017–2020: Continuing success	9,903	9,903
2020–2022: Two triple crowns with Radonjić	6,515	6,515
2022–present: Post-Radonjić period	6,331	6,331
Rivalries	14	1,455
Partizan Belgrade	801	801
Budućnost Podgorica	640	640
Identity	639	1,881
Sponsors and manufacturers	1,242	1,242
Sponsorship naming	1,046	1,046
Home arenas	1,773	1,773
Supporters	430	430
Players	59	12,365
Current roster	2,771	2,771
Depth chart	866	866
Retired numbers	895	895
The Zvezda's Stars	1,637	1,637
Players on the NBA draft	2,208	2,208
Team captains	1,712	1,712
Second-generation players	2,217	2,217
Head coaches	307	4,514
History	2,785	2,785
Notable head coaches	1,422	1,422
Hall of Famers, greatest players and contributors	191	191
Trophies	149	149
Youth system	578	2,822
History	1,625	1,625
Current staff	619	619
Management	954	11,602
Current officeholders	3,503	3,503
Presidents	2,194	2,194
Chairperson of the Assembly	1,650	1,650
Honorary President	650	650
General managers, directors, and secretaries general	736	736
Sporting directors	1,586	1,586
Team managers	329	329
Notable players	6,221	6,221
See also	76	76
Notes	47	47
References	28	28
External links	932	932
Total	99,660	99,660

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Dejan Tomasevic is from Serbia, not from Montenegro! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.143.217.107 (talk) 20:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

@grobari: Please, stop spamming the article with "comical" remarks. Sincerely, OxymoronNBG (talk) 10:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the name

I came here through Blake Schilb, and I wonder why is the FMP page under the page of Red star?

Like the owner said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIcAh1b1On4

These video clips with by YouTube is proven that this is not the KK Crvena Zvezda for FMP. Nn94 14 (talk) 12:08, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename: it's Red Star in English!!

I am from that region and I know of this club of course but seeing it written Crvena zvezda is frankly very strange! This is the best well known club in Serbia and everybody knows it as Red Star. In fact the club is so notorious that it has been tranlsated in all languages. Almost nobody refers to it as Crvena zvezda!!! Even in the article if you pay attention, editors write Red Star! We should rename that.--Lepourquoipas (talk) 03:08, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Literally every official source on English language (Euroleague, Eurocup, ABA league) is calling them Crvena zvezda. I don't see any reason why would we translate their name into English. Honestly it bothers me why even the name of football club is translated into English when UEFA for example calls them Crvena zvezda. By that logic we should rename Real Madrid to Royal Madrid and Steaua Bucharest to The Star Bucharest. Nightfall87 (talk) 21:36, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Nightfall87. --IndexAccount (talk) 21:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure about "literally every English language source" calling them by the local name...

ULEB: Cup Red-Star fall to Dynamo Moscow

One of the main serbian channels: B92: Red Star beat Partizan, clinch basketball Super League title

major news chanel from Australia: SBS: Red Star into Euroleague basketball top 16

main english news channel from turkey: Galatasaray wins tense game in Belgrade against Red Star

That took me 3 min...

As for not seeing why to translate well these are informal conventions that are created over time and of course can change over time.--Lepourquoipas (talk) 14:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You dropped "official" from "literally every English language source" :) It means that every international competition, such as the Euroleague, the Eurocup and the ABA League, where the club plays, use Crvena zvezda instead off Red Star. Your sources confirms what is already mentioned in the article - the english name of Crvena zvzeda. But it's not a reason to change the name of the article. --IndexAccount (talk) 15:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]