Talk:KGWC-TV

GA Review

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Reviewer: Vaticidalprophet (talk · contribs) 08:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Grabbing this one while I'm at it, because I do still like the idea of reviewing a Wyoming article.

First comments

Going by section-ish, but the article is short enough not to bother with a truly section-based header split.

• Channel 14 began broadcasting as KCWY-TV—no relation to the present station with that call sign If we choose to specify this (which is defensible), should we link that station here? Readers interested in it will probably expect it.
  • Done.
• Its debut marked the first time Casper had competing television stations since 1959. It struggled against dominant KTWO-TV. The Lander and Rock Springs stations were put on the air in 1982. The local Chrysostom Corporation sold the stations to Stauffer Communications in 1986. These sentences are very choppy.
  • Reworded.
• KGWC-TV was sold to a hedge fund which then separated it from the Cheyenne station -- "then" implies a noticeable gap in time, do we want that?
• Remember you can duplink now! I always have to remind people of this, because the rules loosened massively only a few months ago. These articles require keeping track of a lot of acronyms -- the reader who wants to compare KGWC's and KTWO's places in their market wants a link to the latter in the article body.
• I love the source about the UHF broadcasting, but it stands out to me that it mentions two first-UHF-channels vaguely simultaneously -- should we allude to the other? Do we know more confidently somehow that this is the first-of-the-first-two?

Also, we should link Ultra high frequency at that mention.

• • So the other isn't a station. It's a translator. See KFNB — it was replaced by an actual station a couple of years later. (fun fact, KFNB was a 5x DYK) And yeah, UHF should be linked; the fact it isn't might indicate how long this sat.
• Lander, Wyoming is definitely not big enough to namedrop without linking.
  • This was before I realized items needed to be linked separately in the lead and body.
• Is there nothing better to source "Wyoming Action Network" to than an ad? Even then, if it were an ad with more analysis of their decision to do so I'd let it slide, but this is an exceptionally brief mention and I'm not sure if it's due.
  • Decided to drop it. This branding seems to have been just way too short-lived.

More to come. Vaticidalprophet 08:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Vaticidalprophet: Responded to all copy issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:46, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Later comments

• Even deeper cutbacks followed the next year, with six of the remaining eight news positions in Casper eliminated.[14] KGWC's newscasts now mostly ran stories from KGWN.[15] It's non-obvious from the sources how many people were laid off. Cite 14 in particular fails verification, as it says "an undetermined number of employees". Cite 15 is equivocal between five or six, due to one employee's medical leave, but seemingly leans closer to five. Cite 15 also feels a little underutilized, as the article doesn't mention that a previous attempt faced logistical issues or Calvert's attempted spin on the situation.
  • Reworded to include the source certainty.
• Could we clarify "semi-satellite"? Broadcast relay station#Semi-satellite could provide some information to link, though defining it in prose would still be appreciated.
  • Reread the source and found it needed wording for different reasons.
• "To paraphrase Shakespeare, something is rotten in the State of Wyoming" -- oh my god, this is fantastic. (Quotebox?) In general, this source (currently cite 23) feels a bit underused too; the description in the article is rather dry, and the Star-Tribune piece describes something rather more chaotic.
  • Added a bit more detail, but it gets kinda inside baseball-y. Feel like a quotebox would give undue weight to this view, but I added it inline.
• KTWO sponsored an "Anchorman for a Day" contest, which was won by Marvin Nolte, a retired man from Bar Nunn with no previous broadcasting experience; he wound up getting a permanent position after one of KGWC-TV's anchors moved to Cheyenne. I dig this. No notes.
• However, the program failed to make headway in the ratings against KTWO and KCWY, which had begun a local newscast in 2003, and was canceled on January 3, 2006. The subject of this sentence is ambiguous on first glance. It'd do to separate KGWC's newscast cancellation date more clearly from the KCWY mention.
  • Reworded to fix.
• The first para of "Gray sale attempt and sale to Big Horn" is very much a wall of text. It's fairly hard to focus the eye on, especially given how much of it is a series of admittedly unavoidable acronyms. There may be a splitting point or a way to rewrite this into more splittable prose.
  • Split the paragraph a bit.
• The last paragraph there is proseliney and not great, but I recognize the difficulty of sourcing by this period.
• The signal of KGWC-TV (or its satellites) is additionally rebroadcast doesn't need "additionally".
  • Fixed.

Over to you. Vaticidalprophet 21:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Vaticidalprophet: Back to you. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:12, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Fritzmann2002 talk 17:51, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that a retired man with no previous broadcasting experience was offered a job by a Wyoming TV station after winning an "Anchorman for a Day" contest? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/53751039/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Angelito de Canal 13

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:41, 29 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/KGWC-TV; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: All good. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 13:14, 29 October 2023 (UTC)