Talk:K. Wah Group

Protected edit request on 28 March 2017

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to make an edit request for creating a page for K. Wah Group. I believe the current redirection of K. Wah Group to K. Wah International is confusing and misleading. Indeed, K. Wah Group and K. Wah International are two individual entities in a sense that K. Wah International, which is a property developer listed in Hong Kong, is a subsidiary of the K. Wah Group, which is a multinational conglomerate principally engaged in properties, entertainment and leisure, hospitality, and construction materials. Therefore, it is believed that a K. Wah Group page should be created in order to better reflect the structure of the group.

For your reference,

‘At the age of 86, the chairman of K. Wah Group and Galaxy Entertainment has already penned his thoughts in his will to ensure his children continue his philanthropic vision through his various foundations.’ http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/economy/article/1876828/hong-kong-entrepreneur-lui-che-woo-rises-tough-beginning-run

K. Wah International Holdings Limited ("KWIH" or "the Group", stock code: 0173) is the listed property arm of K. Wah Group. With a strong foothold established in Hong Kong, KWIH has grown and prospered into a leading integrated developer and investor of exquisite and niche projects, with a strategic focus on Hong Kong, the Yangtze River Delta and Pearl River Delta regions. http://www.kwih.com/en-us/about-kwih/corporate-profiles.aspx

Thank you very much for your time, and your approval will be much appreciated.

Yours faithfully, Rachel Rachel Ko (talk) 08:08, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello. K. Wah Group was redirected and then protected because it was created numerous times within one day and then deleted because it was promotional and a copyright violation. I'm not sure whether there's any reason not to have a neutrally written article about it that isn't copied from somewhere else. I haven't looked to see whether it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for inclusion. However, the two sources you provide give no indication of notability, only that it exists. Both sources barely mention the group, and the second one is KWIH's own advertising, so it isn't an independent, reliable source.

In any event, to request unprotection of the page, check first with the administrator who protected it, Patar knight (talk). If you don't receive a response in a reasonable amount of time, follow the procedures at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Largoplazo (talk) 10:35, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

If you submit a draft that's approved through the articles for creation review process, I'll be happy to unprotect it then. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:08, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

K. Wah Group

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to inform that the current action in directing K. Wah Group page to K. Wah International Holdings Limited page is a wrong and misleading description to K. Wah Group. Please note that K. Wah Group and K. Wah International Holdings Limited are two separate entities that, K. Wah Group is a conglomerate businesses in industries including real estate, gaming, and hospitality and so on, while K. Wah International Holdings Limited is a listed property arm of K. Wah Group. Other subsidiaries under K. Wah Group includes Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited, Stanford Hotels International and K. Wah Construction Materials Limited and so on. The current action in grouping K. Wah Group and K. Wah International page together may mislead Wikipedia users and they may adopt wrong information. May I suggest the Admin separating K. Wah Group from the current K. Wah International page so that correct information could be added accordingly.

Suggested information on K. Wah Group:

K. Wah Group was founded by Dr Lui Che-woo in 1955. It is a multinational conglomerate principally engaged in properties, entertainment and leisure, hospitality, and construction materials, with market presence in Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, Southeast Asia and major cities in the US. The Group has over 200 subsidiaries, including two Hong Kong-listed flagships K. Wah International Holdings Limited (SEHK: 0173) and Galaxy Entertainment Group Limited (SEHK: 0027 and a constituent of the Hang Seng Index). Other major subsidiaries include Stanford Hotels International and K. Wah Construction Materials Limited and, Stanford Hotels Corporation. The Group has more than 30,000 employees worldwide.

Please find some articles that have description of K. Wah Group for your reference: http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/economy/article/1876828/hong-kong-entrepreneur-lui-che-woo-rises-tough-beginning-run http://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/1101617/monday-face-lui-che-woo http://www.worldsrichpeople.com/lui-che-woo.html; http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celebrity-business/men/lui-che-woo-net-worth/ https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/profiles/chewoo-lui/ http://www4.hku.hk/hongrads/index.php/archive/graduate_detail/333 http://nextshark.com/meet-hong-kong-billionaire-sold-peanuts-survive/ https://successstory.com/people/lui-che-woo

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kycsprg (talk • contribs) 09:55, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

If you want to write an article on K. Wah Group that conforms to Wikipedia's guidelines, you're welcome to do so. If you want to submit a request for someone else to write an article, see WP:Requested articles, but assume that the likelihood of anyone following up on that and creating an article will be low.

It is not "wrong" for this title to redirect to K. Wah International because redirection doesn't imply that the destination is the same thing as the source. There are many, many redirects from titles for which no one has written an article and which may not even be notable enough to merit an article, to topics with which they are associated but with which they aren't synonymous. Largoplazo (talk) 12:30, 24 April 2017 (UTC)