Talk:K-19: The Widowmaker

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It appears that in a new version of the script some critics by the crew were accepted:

"The sailors said they had vetoed the first script of the film, which contained such scenes as a Russian officer sitting on top of the reactor and drinking vodka. Director Kathryn Bigelow, speaking at a news conference after the film's gala premiere in St. Petersburg's magnificent Mariinsky Theater, said the team added imaginary conflict to the story for the benefit of the viewer."

Text of letter to Wikisource?

If it's really freely printable, perhaps the text of the letter should be excised and moved to Wikisource. Someone would have to check the copyright issues. - dcljr 21:52, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

or perhaps a link to the letters, if available online, would be in order?

Language

Does anyone find another critism to be that all the russians in the film spoke English? I found that quite disturbing. No, I'm not Russian.

It's an American movie. What can you expect? Do you prefer Brad Pitt speaking Greek in Troy or Colin Farrell speaking Macedonian in Alexander? --Mato Rei 14:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. And it was a relief that the people never spoke with that ridiculous pseudo-Russian accent. Also, in the part where the wives said farewell to the sailors, perfect Russian was spoken. I also liked the attention to the details like the salute (In the soviet armed forces you may not salute without some headdress). That Harrison Ford's character carries alternately Kap-2 and Kap-1 shoulder marks, is somewhat strange, though. --Dunkelfalke (talk) 20:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cast?

Is it really necessary to list the cast in such detail? IMDB already does, and I don't feel it's necessary for the article unless it also then gives links for each actor. That would seem a bit much for all the minor actors invovled (and, if that level of detail is given for the actors, why not also for the production crew?). It should instead have an info box like The Hunt for Red October (film). - Istvan 19:38, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Egregious error

After reading through this article it is not clear whether the error regarding the film's belief is an error of the film makers, or an attempt to portray the fear of the soviet sailers at the time. Is there anyway to verify this one way or the other? 58.165.106.94 12:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Book the movie is based on

I wish to note that the movie was based on the book K-19 by Peter Huchthausen (USN Retired), former Defense Attache at the US Embassy in Moscow and author. Capt. Huchtausen also served as technical advisor to the movie makers.

Steve Huete Huetes 22:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where's The Plot?

I think the 'Subject/headline' says it all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.254.175 (talk) 18:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC) ]Approximately the last 38 minutes of the film are missing in the plot synopsis ----[reply]

"fact-based fictional movie"

Am I the only one who doesn't understand what "fact-based fictional movie" means, K-19 is littered with historical inaccuracies, the only way that it is "fact-based" is the fact that submarines exist and that Russians and Americans don't get along that well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.84.204 (talk) 19:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful if you gave specific examples. The DVD commentary, for example, makes it clear that great attention was paid to the interior of the sub, down to making modifications from details plans of the original. That included adding 200 feet to the length of an actual Russian sea-going submarine! The events, shifted for dramatic effect seem to have quite a lot to do with the first couple years of the K-19 as described in Soviet submarine K-19. Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 16:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Production

The elaborate production is described in considerable detail on the DVD commentaries. Since this appears to be the most ambitious submarine movie since Das Boot -- in some ways exceeding it -- it would be well worthwhile to add another couple paragraphs to the production section. Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 16:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Florida?

If anyone has seen one of the Special Features sections that come with this movie, the one titled "The Making of K-19: The Widowmaker", there was narration that indicated that it was not easy to find an original of the Juliett-class submarine to be towed to Halifax to be restored and remodeled for the movie, but after searching, one was finally found in a drydock in Florida, USA! That really astounded me, hearing that! Why would the Soviets/Russians ever release one of their submarines, even an old outdated one, to be stored with their "enemy"? It was apparently found in the Tampa area, according to the narrative. Backspace (talk) 23:04, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A bit late, but ... : https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-77 T 85.166.162.64 (talk) 07:19, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So what ?

"Stanley Kauffmann of The New Republic wrote: "Why did movie moguls think that this was the right moment for a tale of unflinching loyalty to the Soviet Union?" 85.216.197.77 (talk) 23:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Numbers

The budget figure is much different from the cost-to-make number. Shouldn't they be the same? The box-office value is $0.2 greater than the sum of the US and overseas theatre sales. Why? Kdammers (talk) 21:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Submarine number

The boat is called K-19, but the sub depicted has a three-digit number with no letter. Why is that? Is it normal to have a name (K-19) that is different from the number painted on the side of the sub, or is this a slip? Kdammers (talk) 21:36, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]