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"štrigon" or "štrigun"

Technically speaking "štrigon" or "štrigun" would be a word for a warlock. Local word for a vampire is, believe it or not - "vampir". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.137.145.195 (talk • contribs) 1 July 2010‎

comments about 'first recorded vampire"

Sorry, but even the ancient Greeks had "vampire" legends. Arguably, Lillith in the Talmud also qualifies, and is much older than this Croatian spook. The references supporting this are from people who apparently have not done their homework. HammerFilmFan (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's actually a misquoted reference - Perić says:

U plimi vampirizma, koja je tijekom 17. i 18. stoljeća preplavila Europu, Jure je, izuzmemo li da se pojavio među prvima, bio jedna od rijetkih vampirskih »osobnosti« što su ih predaja, a potom i pisana riječ, zaista precizno definirali. Jure Grando, nemirni noćnik iz Kringe, iskrsnuo je na krilima više nego bogate istarske tradicije štriga, štriguna, morâ, krsnika i drugih fantastičnih bića pučke uobrazilje, no on je u svojoj potencijalnoj literarnoj inačici, usudio bih se reći, ujedno jedan od prvih modernih, »byronovskih« vampira.

That means the reference recognizes a lot of other vampires, in fact, from the same period, but points out that this one is tentatively the earliest one attributed to a real person. Jure Grando wasn't a myth or a legend, we apparently know for a fact he was a real person. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any prof that he is still buried? Prachijainn (talk) 10:15, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the tide of vampirism, which flooded Europe during the 17th and 18th centuries, Jure, except that he appeared among the first, was one of the few vampire "personalities" that were really precisely defined by tradition, and then by the written word. Jure Grando, a restless nocturnal from Kringa, emerged on the wings of a more than rich Istrian tradition of shtriga, striguna, mora, krsnik and other fantastic creatures of the popular imagination, but in his potential literary version, he is, I dare say, also one of the first modern , "Byronic" vampires....... As the last phrase make that clear , that he was first . I believe there are more . Prachijainn (talk) 10:22, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Legend?

There is a section and term "legend" in the article but the story about him written in the work "The Glory of the Duchy of Carniola" is not described as a legend, it is testimony of all those who participated in his killing. The witnesses were his wife, the priest and all the villagers of Kringa who participated in his killing, by name and surname. Can this information somehow fit into the article considering that this event was not originally described as a legend? Mikola22 (talk) 18:16, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]