Talk:Junker Party

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Junker word

The word should be clarified for readers of English unfamiliar with Swedish terms. The party members were not junk dealers, nor did the these men focus on their genitals. SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:04, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's no confusion. The meaning is already adequately explained in the following sentence.

No, unsigned, the meaning of the word is not explained. If you don't know Swedish, one can just at easily assume they named there group for junk dealers. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:43, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And your comment here, as per revision history, was made after you reverted for the 2nd time, not before. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~The next sentence starts "The Junkers were conservative nobles"... It's already included. Gugrak (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2023 (UTC)'~~ Blocked sock. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and that's as explanatory and useful to someone who does not know Swedish as saying the Birdies were liberal politicians. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~It's absurd to claim that the term in Swedish needs to be clarified because of old fashioned slang in American English. Especially without a source. Gugrak (talk) 18:57, 19 April 2023 (UTC)~~ Blocked sock. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is "junk dealer" old-fashioned American English?

We do not need sources that something needs to be clarified, but can cite them for the clarifications. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 19:28, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a source that translates junker to "young nobleman", and includes junker party as "rule of the petty nobility", if that helps.^[1] Schazjmd (talk) 19:21, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Wenström, O.E.; Harlock, W.E. (1918). A Swedish-English Dictionary (in Italian). P. A. Norstedt & söner. p. 285. Retrieved April 19, 2023.

Junker isn't a random, untranslated Swedish word. It is just as much an English word (and listed in English dictionaries, referring to the aristocracy). I don't see why it needs anything more than the following sentence, which gives enough necessary context and links to the term so people who are unfamiliar can read more. flod logic (talk) 08:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Wenström, O.E.; Harlock, W.E. (1918). A Swedish-English Dictionary (in Italian). P. A. Norstedt & söner. p. 285. Retrieved April 19, 2023.

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