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Did you know... that when flying ace Julius Busa's aircraft was hit at 3,000 metres (9,800 ft), his observer leapt overboard without a parachute?

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:23, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that when Julius Busa was hit at 3,000 metres (9,800 ft), his observer leaped overboard without parachute from their Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (pictured)? Source: O'Connor, p. 173: "The aircraft downed was ...Hansa-Brandenburg C.1 129.20....Its observer...jumped from the burning aircraft without parachute at 3,000 meters altitude...Julius Busa, presumably struck by Baracca's bullets, never moved."
- ALT1: ... that after taking a direct hit from flak, Julius Busa completed his completed his long range reconnaissance mission? Source: Same. "While on a long-range reconnaissance mission, June 4, 1916, Busa's aircraft took a direct hit from flak. In spite of the damage, he completed the mission."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Minttu

5x expanded by Georgejdorner (talk). Self-nominated at 01:26, 16 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Chief source is offline, but looks fine. Article has only two sources, but they are both reliable relative to the topic; no plagiarism or similar. Expansion is by considerably more than 5 times; QPQ is done. Both hooks are interesting. An image is referred to in ALT0 but not included, and, if it's the last one in the article that's intended, I'm confused: ALT0 implies that it's Busa's plane, but it seems to be just another plane of the same model, yes? I'd also prefer if the image copyright status could be checked by a German speaker, though it's certainly likely to be public domain. Regardless, I'd suggest revisions to each hook, as follows:
- ALT2: ... that when Julius Busa's Hansa-Brandenburg C.I was hit at 3,000 metres (9,800 ft), his observer leaped overboard without a parachute?
- ALT3: ... that despite taking a direct hit from flak, World War I flying ace Julius Busa completed his completed his long range reconnaissance mission?
Otherwise, I see no issues. I approve this (without the image for now). blameless 00:59, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT4: ... that when Julius Busa's Hansa-Brandenburg C.I (pictured) was hit at 3,000 metres (9,800 ft), his observer leaped overboard without a parachute?
- The proof for ALT0 contains the serial number of Busa's aircraft, but not the hook does not. My personal editorial policy is, serial numbers are of no real interest to the general reader, and are available via cite for the specialist/researcher, so delete them from WP as trival and irrelevant. Thus I left the serial number out of both the text and ALT0. Since my hook posits Busa flying a generic aircraft instead of his specific aircraft (photo not available), a generic photo of said aircraft seems perfectly reasonable.
- If the reviewer disapproves the picture, AT2 and ALT3 are certainly acceptable, and are actually a bit shorter and punchier.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:49, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- As original reviewer has supplied own hooks, and cannot review them, a new reviewer is needed.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:56, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Modified ALT4 to T:DYK/P3