Talk:Joseph Meister

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Teasing the dog?

Is there any truth to the ValueTales mythology that Meister teased the dog with a stick through a gate, before it got out and attacked him? Aldrich Hanssen (talk) 21:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It could be Jupille rather than Meister. See this note in the article "Pasteur" of the French Wikipedia :

"Dans un autre cas célèbre de 1885, celui de Jean-Baptiste Jupille, rien, dans le récit de Pasteur (L. Pasteur, « Méthode pour prévenir la rage après morsure », Comptes rendus de l'Académie des Sciences, t. 101 (1885), séance du 26 octobre 1885, pp. 765-774; reproduit dans L. Pasteur, Écrits scientifiques et médicaux, choix, présentation et notes par André Pichot, Paris, Flammarion, 1994, pp. 302-311), n'indique que le chien ait donné des marques d'agressivité avant que Jupille n'ait marché vers lui en brandissant un fouet, ce qui, d'après Decourt, ouvr. cit., pp. 146-147, invalide le diagnostic de rage." Marvoir (talk) 18:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reason of his suicide

The article says : "Reportedly he chose to commit suicide rather than allow the Wehrmacht to enter the Pasteurs' crypt.^[1] However, Dr. Georges Cohen, who lived in the same Paris apartment building as Joseph Meister's son, related that although Meister did commit suicide in despondency over the German invasion, the suicide was not related to Pasteur's burial crypt."

^ Asimov, Issac. The New Intelligent Man's Guide to Science. Basic Books, New York, 1965.

Is it possible to have a precise reference (with page number) for the assertion of Dr. Georges Cohen ? Thanks. Marvoir (talk) 07:18, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is no certain that the dog was rabid

It is no certain that the dog was rabid. See the French article. Unfortunately, my English is too bad, I cannot modify the English article. Marvoir (talk) 18:01, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Considéré comme enragé, il fut abattu par des gendarmes. considered (as though) rabid, [the dog] was shot by the police. from french WP. the boy was cleaned up, his wounds (apparently quite a lot of them) were cleaned and the attending said the boy should be taken to paris, where the consultant recommended rabies treatment.

"A big hunting dog, whom I knew well, came out from between two houses [and] lowering its head, threw itself on me. I was holding a tin bowl in my hand, but rabid dogs don't like what glitters. He bit me on the hand first and, going after me, knocked me down and bit me cruelly on the legs, wounding me fourteen more times." translated from the french at [1]https://www.mijo.demouron.fr/2008/01/21/il-etait-une-fois/

"Meanwhile, the owner of the dog, Mr. Théodore Vonné, who had caught his dog, was very worried about the quite unusual and extremely aggressive attitude of the animal, had taken him to Sélestat, 25 km away, to a veterinarian. During the journey the dog always tried to bite the people they met. Gendarmes shot the animal, but Mr. Vonné still took the dog to the veterinarian, and the vet autopsied it. In the dog's stomach hay, straw and wood fragments were found, so the dog was well enraged." op. cit.

you might consider this unacceptable as it is referenced from a blog.However:

"Thanks to "L'Annuaire de la société d'histoire du Val de Villé"*, in which I was able to find the extracts of my grandfather's story. --- *The Directory of the Val de Villé Historical Society".

the blog belongs to the french artist https://www.artprice.com/artist/592726/mijo 64.229.175.25 (talk) 21:35, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Meister was not the first person to be vaccinated

This english article says that Joseph Meister was the first person to be vaccinated and "likely the first person to be successfully treated for the infection", which is not true. It's a popular myth far away from being true.

There is no evidence that, the dog he was bitten by, had rabies. Another thing is he was actually the 3rd person to be vaccinated by Louis Pasteur (1st person's status was unknown, while the 2nd child died a few days after the vaccination - most likely due to rabies).

Louis Pasteur: Between Myth and Reality (mdpi.com)

The Science of Louis Pasteur: A Reconsideration on JSTOR MatEditor (talk) 01:58, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Asimov, Issac. The New Intelligent Man's Guide to Science. Basic Books, New York, 1965.

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