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For a bio of a living person, this piece is so filled with positive adjectives, breathless praise and real factual stretches (i.e., taking credit for being the congressional author of a bill that didn't even pass or become law law until two years AFTER leaving Congress) that it is of questionable value. The raw facts seem generally okay, if the fluff is removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Politics1 (talk • contribs) 03:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I've purged the worst of the crap. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do articles like these that have become disputed get cleared? What changes need to be made? I'd be willing to help out on this page, but I don't know what needs to be changed. GW Wright (talk) 17:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 31 December 2017

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) sami ^talk 23:45, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph J. DioGuardi → Joe DioGuardi – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:SELFIDENTITY.

He went by "Joe" in his successful 1984 campaign to the US House [1] and subsequently in unsuccessful campaigns, in 1992 for the US House [2], 1996 [3], and then in 2010 for a US Senate campaign [4]. His campaign organization in 1996 was called "Joe DioGuardi for Congress" (p. 81). During his political career, New York Times articles quoted others calling the congressman "Joe", as in these two 1988 articles [5] [6] and this one in 1986 [7].

Today, he maintains Facebook [8] and Twitter [9] accounts going by Joe.

"Joe DioGuardi" has ~28k google results, while "Joseph DioGuardi" has ~11k and "Joseph J. DioGuardi" ~21k. Arbor to SJ (talk) 07:25, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning oppose. I'm not sure about this one. The Times uses "Joseph J. DioGuardi" in the links I looked at, and MOS:IDENTITY says "When there is a discrepancy between the term most commonly used by reliable sources for a person or group and the term that person or group uses for themselves, use the term that is most commonly used by reliable sources. Even his campaign website headlines "2010 Republican Joseph DioGuardi for Senate". – wbm1058 (talk) 06:24, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Further rationale re: the common name

I think there was too little discussion in the previously closed move request - some can be on my part for failing to bring up further evidence than I'd already presented.

Regarding The New York Times - its uber-formal editorial standards often use "First M. Last" formats for political subjects. For instance, its obituary of Senator Ted Kennedy uses the less common "Edward M. Kennedy" in its headline. Likewise, "Edward M. Kennedy" has 7000+ google search results within nytimes.com compared to 1500 for the more common "Ted Kennedy".

Using the Newslibrary.com database to search the archives (dating back to 2001) of DioGuardi's hometown newspaper in Glens Falls, New York, The Post-Star, I found 18 results for "Joe DioGuardi", 6 for "Joseph DioGuardi", and 0 for "Joseph J. DioGuardi".

Also, regarding his 2010 run for Congress, media most frequently referred to him as "Joe", for instance moderator Bill Ritter at a debate televised by WABC-TV (video at 0:30). Other media using "Joe" back then include National Review [10], New York Daily News [11] [12] [13], CNN [14] [15], and The Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC-FM [16]. Arbor to SJ (talk) 04:20, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]