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A parody of Ubico.

The article reads more like a hit piece in an undergraduate Marxist newspaper than a reference article. Ubico was actually a very complex figure (a mixture of good and bad) - going round on his motorcycle (sometimes alone) "doing justice" (as he viewed it).5.66.137.182 (talk) 09:00, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

I'm not sure what the defining attributes for "stubs" are but I've added a fairly complete summary for Jorge. I'd take the "stub" line off but I'm not sure about it. Neospooky 20:38, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My history class is doing an Wikipedia project in which we are expanding the "Ten Years of Spring" or the Guatemalan Revolution. Editing the Jorge Ubico article was my responsibility and more information on the Revolution will follow. --Brad84 19:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC) Using the rather biased "Ten Years of Spring" term for the decade of leftist rule in Guatemala tells readers all we need to know about you. Would you not be happier in El Salvador or Nicaragua (both under the rule of Marxists for some years now) than in Guatemala?5.66.137.182 (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these claims about Ubico's personality need citations; what authority states that he "always had to be doing something," etc.? Varlokkur 20:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Information

Ubico was not the last dictator before the democratically elected Arevalo. Not only does that section have no citations, it is incorrect and needs to be fixed. There are several sections that the information is not cited as well and it is questionable about how correct they are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.120.85 (talk) 12:50, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

The date of birth in the head of the article doesn't match the date under the photograph. I don't feel competent to correct that, so if any of you could, it would definitely look better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.145.129.116 (talk) 22:04, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism

The early life section bears a remarkable resemblance to an early life section of a page on Ubico in the New World Encyclopedia. Clearly, someone plagiarized someone. I am not sure what the system is for dealing with this. Could someone who does know what to do clear this up?

The section from the New World Encyclopedia page:

"Born to Arturo Ubico Urruela, a lawyer and politician of the Guatemalan liberal party who was also a wealthy landowner. President Justo Rufino Barrios was Ubico's godfather. Jorge Ubico was sheltered for most of his childhood. He was privately tutored and attended school in Guatemala's most prestigious institutions as well as receiving further education abroad in the United States and Europe.

By 1897, Ubico received his commission into the Guatemalan army as second lieutenant, which was largely a reflection of his political ties, since he had failed to graduate from the military academy. In 1906, he took part in the a border war with El Salvadore. He rose rapidly through the ranks. He was one of the first Guatemalans to receive military training in the U.S. By the age of 28, he had the rank of colonel. A year later, he was made military governor (jefe politico) of the province of Alta Verapaz (1907-09), followed four years later as governor of Retalhuleu (1911-1919). During his tenure, he oversaw improvements in public works, the school system, public health, and youth organizations. In 1918, he drained swamps, ordered fumigation and distributed free medicine to combat a yellow fever epidemic,[1] and won the praise of Major General William C. Gorgas, who had done the same in Panama. It was as head of the National Sanitary Commission in the fight against yellow fever that he established a reputation as an efficient administrator. However, his reputation also came from his harsh but effective punishment of banditry and smuggling across the Mexican border. He returned to Guatemala City in 1921, to participate in a coup that installed General José Orellana into presidency. Under Orellana, he reached the rank of Secretary of War in 1922, and also served as an ambassador to the U.S. In 1926, after the death of President Orellana, Ubico ran unsuccessfully for president as the candidate of the Political Progressive Party. He temporarily retired to his farm until the next election."

Source: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Jorge_Ubico#President_of_Guatemala_.281931-44.29

Compare this to our early life section, and my reason for claiming plagiarism will become apparent. Clearly, the early life section has been edited extensively, so many differences between the two versions now exist, but there are still many identical sentences and phrases. This makes Wikipedia look bad and should be dealt with.Markshark98 (talk) 23:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Revert

The content removed in this edit is well supported by sources. If anything, the summary is too mild; scholars tend to be very harshly critical of the UFC's practices at the time. Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"His Excellency"

Why this submissive "His Excellency" in the boxes of (mostly dead) Guatemalan Presidents? It is unworthy of a democratic readership and out of place in an objective, informative medium. Moreover, if the President actually happened to be a dictator, any reverential title is bound to be ridiculous at best.

"Compared himself to Hitler"

The introduction says that he compared himself to Hitler. This is undoubtedly false. Ubico had a very low opinion of Hitler, deriding him as a "peasant." He did, however, admire Mussolini and Franco (his regime was the first or second to recognize Franco's regime, and he and Mussolini exchanged decorations, although Ubico returned his after the attack on Pearl Harbor). Josh (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The cited source, which is academic, says as much. He is even quoted saying "I am like Hitler. I execute first and ask questions later."--C.J. Griffin (talk) 23:05, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jorge Ubico

±Ok to start of Ubico was born in November 10, 1878, Guatemala City, Guatemala And died June 14, 1946, New Orleans, LA. Let me tell you the story in which he was in. It was about an factory( United Fruits) and they were greedy. you may thing that Ubico saved the day but that wasn't it. He actually what the antagonist. He helped United Fruits. SO the person who started United fruit was Lorenzo Baker. He was sailing on the seas and had a big leak in his boat. But thankfully he made it to the nearest island Jamaica. The jamaican people where okay with them landing there.While he was there he discovered these bright beautiful plants. THe banana. He want to taste them and they filled his mouth with an amazing flavor. He loved them so much he brought miners there and gathered tons of bananas. Luckily the Jamaicans where okay with it because I wouldn't. A stranger landing on my island tacking our food. Ya I wouldn't like that. SO he started the bisnes United fruit which was all about bananas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.144.134.202 (talk) 17:54, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]