Talk:Jones & Furbringer

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Jones

User:Doncram: I created a separate bio about Jones because it looks like he designed at least two NRHP-listed buildings on his own. Then he designed many more buildings with Furbringer, who may not have designed anything on his own, but I am not sure yet. Furbringer's obituary reads, "His work included helping design Southwestern, the Claridge Hotel and the administration building for the University of Tennessee medical units." I wonder if this means we are missing buildings on the campus of Rhodes College (formerly known as Southwestern) and the University of Tennessee Health Science Center in this article, or if Furbringer designed them separately (in which case a separate bio could be created).Zigzig20s (talk) 01:09, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jones' article is very short, so perhaps we could create sub-sections with short bios about each architect here instead?Zigzig20s (talk) 01:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am concerned by "Works by either architect individually or by the firm include". Which ones were not designed by both please?Zigzig20s (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see, the Cordova School was only designed by Furbringer apparently. I am not sure what to do about all this. Their obituaries are quite short.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:20, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, again it is an art not a science about when to create separate articles. :) Further, the NRIS indicator for the firm or for just one is not really definitive about who did what. Often in cases like this I might have found an item with one of the architect's names, and not noticed that it also appears under the other architect's name. --Doncram (talk) 01:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey I find that the firm did design Graceland! And some more mentions of its works. From its NRHP document:

The physical description of Graceland involves three periods of ownership; the Moore Family, Elvis Presley, and the Elvis Presley Estate. The first owners of Graceland were the Moore family who built it in 1939. Elvis Presley bought Graceland in 1957 and lived there until his death in 1977. Today Graceland is operated as a house museum. Presley made alterations and additions to the original house during his occupancy and slight alterations have occurred to the buildings and site under the estate's management.

The name Graceland predates the purchase of the property by Elvis Presley. The first Graceland was the name of a five hundred acre farm owned by the Toof family located on the site during the nineteenth century. A descendant of the Toof family, Mrs. Thomas Moore and her husband built the present house in 1939. The architects were a prominent Memphis firm, Furbringer and Ehrman. Max Furbringer and Merrill Ehrman were responsible for such structures as the Raoul Wellenberg Memorial Shell (Overton Park Shell), the Memphis Humane Shelter, the West Tennessee Tuberculosis Hospital, the Temple Israel (now the Baptist Theological Seminary), and the Mid-South Coliseum. One of the few domestic buildings designed by the firm, Graceland was lived in by the Moores and their daughter Ruth Marie Moore. Music has always been a theme at Graceland since Ruth Marie Moore played harp and piano in the three large rooms that stretch across the front of the house.

Hope this helps. --Doncram (talk) 01:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Doncram: Furbringer and Ehrman, but not Jones, which makes this article even more confusing. (Slightly off topic but speaking of Toof, there is the John S. Toof House and the Toof Building...)Zigzig20s (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, oops, maybe i noticed the distinction before. Well, talk about all of these in just one article? The NRHP doc ref for Graceland is:^[1]

References

^ Jennifer M. Tucker (September 1991). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Graceland". National Park Service. Retrieved January 19, 2020. With accompanying 41 photos

--Doncram (talk) 02:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find Ehrman's full name, can you?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[nrhpdoc-graceland-1] Jennifer M. Tucker (September 1991). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Graceland". National Park Service. Retrieved January 19, 2020. With accompanying 41 photos

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