Talk:Jolof Empire

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Why is this listed as a 1900 Disestablishment? That date seems to be off by a few centuries.Jtyroler (talk) 06:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Because of Jolof Kingdom, although it's off on that count as well. — LlywelynII 16:59, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Would 142.195.251.128 stop destroying this article

Whoever 142.195.251.128 is would you please stop destroying this article. Not only have you deleted all the references from various notable sources, you kept citing one book which said nothing about your claims. You have totally destroyed this article in order to satisfy your ego. Several people have worked on this article but you have totally destroyed. Your unsourced and unfound egotistical Wolof remarks against the Serer people does not help either. Get over yourself please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamsier (talk • contribs) 03:01, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

to tamsier :im doin a research on the subject of wolof influence in the senegambian region , wich led me to your article i was shoked by the emphasis that you put on the serere factor to explain the emergence of the jolof empire . On the other hand iv been emerged since birth in the families that are tied to the ancient wolof imperial court and i will have to disagree strongly but gently with certain of your statements , nevertheless im an admirer of the serer culture and civilisation but dont rewrite our history ... for the sake of argument i wont remodify the article because it would be childish and whoever reads this will know that your views are not the consensus wich is enough for me . for the rest jokojal ,the article is well structred , you clearly love your people a lot too (lol) and i apologize for the damages i inadvertly caused , im new on wiki . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.195.251.128 (talk) 19:58, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Njokonjal. You must be a well cultured Wolof which is a rearity. I say that with love of course. To the contrary, I have not been re-writing the Wolof history only reporting what the sources say. As said before, the Wolof have actually never ruled themselves, but ruled by Serers (e.g. the Ndiaye paternal dynasty of Jolof and Joos maternal dynasty of Walo); Bambara (Mbooj originally Bo and Wolofized into Mbooj just as the Fula surname Ba is Wolofized into Mbacke); Black Moors e.g Fall/Faal (see Boubar Barry, Le royaume du Walo, Amadou Wade Chronique du Walo, Omar Ndiaye Leyti Les Dyolof et ses bourba). Further, Baol was ruled by the Serers of the Joof/ Diouf paternal dynasty centuries before the Fall dynasty following the Battle of Danki 1549. After the Joof paternal dynasty and Wagadou maternal dynasty, it was ruled by the Njie/Ndiaye (also originally Serers who were Wolofized) (see historical dictionary of Senegal, Lucie Colvin Phillips). With no offence to you, there are several Senegambian related articles hijacked by certain Wolofs and claim it as their own when in fact they had nothing to do with it. Have you seen the Mafe article (proper: Domodah)? The Wolof claimed it as usual without sources until I came in and redress the balance with sources. Domodah originated from the Mandinka and Bambara of Mali and certainly not from the Wolofs. This is just one of many the Wolofs have hijacked and always without sources. There is nothing wrong with borrowing but proper attribution should be given. The Wolofs seem to attribute everything to themselves eventhough they had nothing to do with it but merely borrowed it from Serers, Mandinkas etc. This is not all Wolofs, it is mainly the younger Wolofs from my experience. Wolof elders know the truth if only the younger generation speak to them more.

Anyway you can edit as much as you like. I don't own this article. I just thought that sourced content was being removed just because someone does not like what it says. I should have been a bit gentler. Good luck with your research. Use Wiki only as a starting point. Read proper books and talk to the elders. Tamsier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.125.103 (talk) 23:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Jolof or Wolof?

Tamsier moved this article from 'Wolof empire' to 'Jolof empire' but there are still a number of pages which use 'Wolof', needs a cleanup. Dougweller (talk) 08:20, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Odd as it is, apparently the people are usually Wolof or Wollof and the state is more often Jolof. More importantly, the page shouldn't confuse the period of the empire proper with that covered under the Jolof Kingdom article. — LlywelynII 15:51, 19 April 2014 (UTC)