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LTG Dell Dailey <> MG Richard Scholtes

I noticed that the picture for LTG Dell Dailey is the same picture used for MG Richard Scholtes. I don't know which picture is right or wrong, but I'm assuming these aren't the same person... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.244.87.109 (talk) 15:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the wrong picture. there is a picture here [1], maybe someone will upload it Tomtom (talk) 16:19, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are examples of equivalent commands of other nations necessary?

Are examples of equivalent commands of other nations necessary? If it is, then why are there only 2 more examples and why are many others being removed? SReader21 (talk) 16:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

only the KSSO seems to have any legitimate reason to be included since it's specifically modelled after JSOC. Similar to how aussie SAS and NZ SAS are modeled and are in close operational relationship with the British SAS. Belevalo (talk) 18:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RRC

I don't understand why my change got reverted, RRC is an SMU under JSOC https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1105685458?diffmode=source Arjunyel (talk) 14:41, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revert_only_when_necessary Arjunyel (talk) 14:48, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thewolfchild: sorry I'm new, can you please explain the revert? Arjunyel (talk) 14:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Content must be supported by sourcing. The changes you made were not. - wolf 18:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The original source was enough but I added another "they were officially bumped up to become a JSOC asset sometime around 2005" https://sofrep.com/news/75th-ranger-regiment-regimental-reconnaissance-detachment/ Arjunyel (talk) 19:26, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The same article ends with "The information in this article is an important part of Ranger history, but the details are now obsolete from a intelligence standpoint.". Do you have another source that confirms RRC is currently with JSOC, instead of USASOC? Also, do you also have a source that confirms they are now a JSOC SMU? (Along the same lines as the other four units, opposed to being considered an SMU by USASOC) - wolf 23:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another article that says they moved to JSOC https://sofrep.com/news/ranger-recon/ as secondary evidence of them moving: "It was this battlefield development that led the Rangers to create the Battalion Recce Platoons (part of Battalion Headquarters) circa 2004 – 2005." Arjunyel (talk) 03:37, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure this second ref is all that clear, but just the same, if it's accepted from that source that the RRC is now full-time JSOC, this presents a new problem if you don't have a source that confirms they are an SMU, on par with the other SMUs at JSOC. The current entry, lists the four confrimed SMUs, Detla, DevGru, ISA and 24 STS. The RRC was noted as once being referred to as an SMU, while with USASOC. If you want to assert that the RRC is indeed full-time JSOC, but can't confirm they are one of JSOC's SMUs, then they can't be listed here at all. However, if you feel the soucing you've listed doesn't quite comfirm the RRC as 100% a part of JSOC full-time, then we can leave the article as is; with the RRC noted as an SMU, as part of USASOC. I know sourcing for this material can be difficult to pin down, due to the classified nature of these units, but WP has a clear sourcing policy, with no short-cuts. I'll leave it up to you - as is, or outright removal, pending the discovery of new sources. Good luck - wolf 05:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]