Talk:John Waters (columnist)

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2006 posts

Haha congrats to the person who edited about the Eurovision song coming last, you beat me by ten seconds literally!!

Yep. There's a lot of full corners around Europe tonight what with all those "corner boys" who didn't pick up the phone and vote! LOL

His campaign for fathers' rights' has been marred by rhetoric such as "feminazis"[3]. THIS IS BIASED ... HE SAID IT, HE SAID IT . IT HAS NOT MARRED, AND IS NOT RHETORIC . FEMINAZI, CAMES IN DICTIONARY.COM, AND IS VERY USED IN THOSE SITUATIONS (and others, by the way), ABOUT FATHERS RIGHTS, VERSUS ULTRA FEMINISTS, ETC ETC . FEMINAZI, CAMES IN WILIPEDIA, TOO . FIX THIS, OK . IT WAS HIS (JOHN WATERS ) OPINION, DONT PUT YOURS . / P. QUINTELA .. --END//

I did not dispute that he used the term "feminazi" - in fact that's why I made that comment. John Waters tends to badly overstate cases he tries to make, thus even when I agree with him I see him shooting himself in the foot. I read the debate between John Waters and Sean Love and concluded that Waters was being his usual over-the-top self. It's not like he's debating extremists like Andrea Dworkin! He once complained about feminists and the Irish Constitution when the article he cited was one that had been in the constitution since 1937 - hardly a document that was written by militant feminists! Autarch 20:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shhhh BIG CAPS PERSON. El Gringo 01:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Irish Times

Has he left it? If so, why? I saw an article of his in today's Sunday Independent. El Gringo 01:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He's still writing for it - todays' Irish Times has a column by him. He's no longer published by Village, though. Autarch 19:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

Five of the six (#1–5) current inline citations don't work any more because most are now from a pay content website. Does anyone have new accessible verifiable sources? ww2censor 03:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What a fantastic example of someone taking quotes out of context and using them for their own agenda. This is obviously edited by the same faction of individuals who outwardly dislike John Waters. This same group of pseudo intellectuals would do well to employ some of the objectivity they so often demand from others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.190.135.235 (talk) 13:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, at the very top, the fourth hyperlink is supposedly to 'In Dublin' magazine, but it actually links to a folk album that was produced in 1974. Can this be, eh rectified please? Terrificjoy (talk) 22:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Wayback Machine? -- 109.78.153.72 (talk) 01:15, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GAY

The article refers to John Waters using the term "GAY", linking to an article in the Irish Times. For those of us who don't have a subscription, could the author who added that remark expand on it? Autarch (talk) 13:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above term in quotes turned out to be vandalism - has been fixed. Autarch (talk) 21:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again, have you tried the Wayback Machine, many articles from the Irish Times (and other places) are archived before it goes behind the Paywall. (There are very common settings they could apply to their website if they did not want to allow this.) If you find a dead link or missing link on Wikipedia it is probably the first thing you should check -- 109.78.153.72 (talk) 01:15, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"...sixty to seventy percent of the internet is pornography"

dont see why thats in the controvery section, if anything his estimates very conservative

Date of birth

Anyone have a reliable source for this? Not urgent, but would be nice to have. Autarch (talk) 01:03, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My recent edits and WTF is Far-Right

I was going to concede on the category "Neo-Luddites" (surprised there is such a category!) as he apparently described himself as such, but if I claim I'm a Martian and nobody else agrees, then I guess that's a bad category. As for "far-right", the notion that "everybody agrees" is hardly a test. Is that claim referenced? I don't agree, for example. What specific policies or opinions does he have that makes him "far-right"? Sarah777 (talk) 19:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked up the Wikipedia "definition" of the term "far-right" politics and it says: Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views.

I am aware that to his eternal shame, he, along with most of the "liberal" establishment, supported the illegal murderous invasion of Iraq. But apart from that, what views does he have that makes him "far-right"? Sarah777 (talk) 19:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does the article for the great replacement theory (that he preaches) state “far-right” or does it not?

To compliment that, there are WP:RS for the far-right label:

The Irish Times^[1]
The Journal^[2]
The Times^[3]

R0paire-wiki (talk) 20:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the inclusion of far-right. It does need to be referenced, of course - we can't just say, well, he speaks out against immigrants, bangs on about the so-called 'Great Replacement Theory', hangs around with Nazis and ran for election for GO'D's "Anti-Corruption Ireland" and thus draw the conclusion "well, there you go, then - everyone knows he is!" But we do have several independent WP:RS references to support inclusion. The 'Neo-Luddite' thing is more clear cut - him describing himself as that is a primary source, so can't be included. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 22:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with the above and have implemented per WP:DUCK and overwhelming sources. Ceoil (talk) 23:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Election 2020: Far-right candidates put in dismal showing". The Irish Times. Retrieved 2024-09-06.
^ McDermott, Stephen (2020-02-10). "Far-right parties barely register after polling less than 1% in most constituencies". TheJournal.ie. Retrieved 2024-09-06.
^ McCarthy, Justine (2019-11-03). "With attacks and protests on the rise is Irish politics being pulled …". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-09-06. Retrieved 2024-09-06.

Neo-Luddite category

109.76.249.135, please read WP:V, WP:PRIMARY and WP:SECONDARY. Waters writing in opinion columns 14 years ago and over a quarter of a century ago that he's a Luddite is not a WP:RS for inclusion in a category. Were the remarks meant to be humorous? Self-deprecating? For all time? He's broadcasting in podcasts and YouTube channels these days - so maybe his views have changed? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:32, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Election 2020: Far-right candidates put in dismal showing". The Irish Times. Retrieved 2024-09-06.

[2] McDermott, Stephen (2020-02-10). "Far-right parties barely register after polling less than 1% in most constituencies". TheJournal.ie. Retrieved 2024-09-06.

[3] McCarthy, Justine (2019-11-03). "With attacks and protests on the rise is Irish politics being pulled …". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-09-06. Retrieved 2024-09-06.

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