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Why so positive?

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This article is quite positive for an article about a murderer and warcriminal which is evident. The socalled battles with indians, reverred in the article, where often massacres. -Steven 19/10/2009

First, please put yr comments below the Project whatnots. Second, Rip may have been a racist, unpleasant sumbitch (scroll down from here for him neglecting his duty to apprehend someone who actually did commit a massacre;) but to the extent war crimes existed, they didn't apply to irregular brigands like the Comanche (who would've fallen under regulations for piracy,) and massacres are what the Comanche committed (cf. Fort Parker massacre, Rachel Plummer, Linnville Raid, etc.) or (admittedly) what Rip sometimes ignored. What he actually did, however, was warfare against armed combatants, although sourced controversy is fine to present in the article. -LlywelynII (talk) 23:33, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source for nickname “RIP”

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There is no source for the history of how he got his name. The language appears to have come out of the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame Museum website treatment of Ford. [1]https://www.texasranger.org/Hall-of-Fame/Ford-John#:~:text=It%20was%20as%20adjutant%20that,calling%20Ford%20%22Old%20Rip.%22

I believe there is a footnote in Stephen B. Oates introduction to Ford’s memoirs in Rip Ford’s Texas (University of Texas Press 1987 reissue edition). That footnote attributes the source as a descendant of Ford’s (his great grandson I believe) and it is hard to tell if that has legitimacy as a source. Decowen (talk) 20:36, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]