Talk:John L. Chapin

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Rlink2 (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that United States Army captain John L. Chapin refused five promotions in order to stay with his company? Source: [1] (He passed up promotion to major on five occasions to stay with his men.)
  • ALT1: ... that United States Army captain John L. Chapin's company once boycotted a burger restaurant in El Paso, Texas for discrimination? Source: [2] (The end result was that “the hamburger facility was placed off limits and the owners were later fined $500 for refusing to serve American soldiers.”)
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Created by Bsoyka (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: All criteria met. Both hooks are interesting for me, though I find the ALT more fun; then again, it'll be up to the DYK peeps. But it looks all good. GeraldWL 04:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Gerald Waldo Luis (talk · contribs) 05:00, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to be reviewing this soon, it's short so it shouldn't be a hassle. As I stated in the Discord, I don't have much knowledge in WP:MILHIS, so I'll try to do the best I can. Giving initial ticks for consistent reflayout, good images, and stability. Recommend adding image alt texts for accessibility. GeraldWL 05:00, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Alt text added for both images. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 05:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

• Suggest changing the portal template to Portal bar, place it below Authority control. Because there's only one exlink, the portal template gives a weird blank space for desktop users.
• My RS detector detects War History Online as unreliable, but I can't find any related discussions about it. What do you think?
• Infobox states he died in Gari River, but there's no mention of it in the Military career section.

• I think the second lead paragraph can benefit from a mention of his burial site. So "His name is memorialized" --> "He was buried in Italy, and memorialized"
• I also think that in this lead, as well as the military section, it would benefit non-military-geek readers with a brief description on the battle site, that is Italy.
• "and was soon recruited by a National Guard unit." --> "and was soon recruited by a Texas Army National Guard unit."
• "in El Paso" --> "in El Paso, Texas"
• "and high school in the El Paso and Ysleta school districts"-- "and high school in the El Paso and Ysleta independent school districts"
• Link chemical engineering and Texas A&M University
• "At 9 years old" --> "At the age of nine" or "When he was nine years old"
• I think you can move the ref 7 to the final sentence, so that everything will be cited; the source also covers the "prior to joining the military" part: [W]hile he had plans to attend medical school, he chose instead to serve in the National Guard.
• "chose to join the infantry instead" --> "chose to join the Infantry Branch instead"
• "A Texas Army National Guard unit approached Chapin about becoming their chemical warfare officer with his degree"-- the reference you cited doesnt seen to support this statement. However I find the right source to be this, aka ref 2.
• Paragraph 2 and 3 can be merged, with "One" in "One particular" change to "Another".
• "One particular example of Chapin's devotion to his soldiers"-- add "perceived" between "Chapin's" and "devotion" so it'll be more neutral.
• Delink hamburger as its overlink.
• "service to black and Mexican people" --> "service to Black and Mexican people"
• Link Battle of Rapido River
• "he was posthumously awarded"
• "Chapin's body is buried at the Sicily–Rome American Cemetery and Memorial in Nettuno, Italy." I think this fits more in the last paragraph of the military section, rather than the legacy.
• Using ref 2 I found some stuff that I think might intrigue you to write. "Velma did not learn of his death until February 22, 1944 a full month after he died" is pretty significant since she was his wife. As well as "On all of their gravestones are three letters that signify that they all earned the greatest honor a country can give its military men. -- KIA Killed in Action". And "His son Paul is now 61 years old and had 4 children".
• "American soldiers bringing back wounded"-- "American soldiers bringing back the wounded"

That's all I have on this article, specifically this GAN. I won't put much scrutiny on it since it's just a GAN, and there is also such thing as WP:STUBBY. I'm passing this for broadness, focus, MOS, and neutrality too. GeraldWL 09:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

• My RS detector detects War History Online as unreliable, but I can't find any related discussions about it. What do you think?

  The only RS discussion for War History Online appears to be at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 347#War History Online, which concluded that the guest author wasn't reliable and the website wasn't reliable on its own. In this case though it might be different as the guest author is Dave Gutierrez, author of a book on E Company. Thoughts?

• "and high school in the El Paso and Ysleta school districts"-- "and high school in the El Paso and Ysleta independent school districts"

  El Paso and Ysleta already link to the respective districts there, is a link to School district needed?

​ Fixed everything else. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 15:37, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll let the WHO source pass in this case, since the book you linked has been well received by several RS-es. I think for the latter, the status quo feels like an easter egg, so yeah I suggest linking it. In the meantime, passed for RS and neutrality. GeraldWL 15:44, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Changed to in the El Paso ISD and Ysleta ISD to avoid a SOB. Anything else you have? Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 16:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Hmm.. how about changing the first ISD to Independent School District, but leaving the second be? Normally one would expect the abbreviations to be explained at first mention (MOS:ACRO1STUSE). GeraldWL 17:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

​ Done. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 17:36, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Awesome!  Passed -- nice work! GeraldWL 17:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

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