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John Holt (publisher) was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
January 3, 2022	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 8, 2013.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the American colonial newspaper publisher John Holt has been labeled by a modern day historian "the most important Radical printer outside Boston" during the American Revolution?

Current status: Delisted good article

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There was never a "mayor" of williamsburg

The thing that says he was the "mayor" of williamsburg and i dont think that it is true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.54.12.189 (talk) 22:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This issue has long since been resolved and is referenced http://research.history.org/ravenscroft/historyHolt.cfm --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Printing Press Seized by Lord Dunmore

According to a small textbook ^[1], Lord Dunmore of Virginia seized John Holt's printing press sometime after November 17, 1775.

99.95.168.141 (talk) 03:48, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ From Colonies to Country by Joy Hakim, page 121

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:John Holt (publisher)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Vacant0 (talk · contribs) 23:40, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I saw this article on the GAN backlog. I will start the review tomorrow. Cheers, --Vacant0 (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments

General

Would prefer to change the place of birth in the infobox to Williamsburg, Virginia, British America – it is more precise.

Done

Change the occupation to {{hlist|Printer|postmaster}}, change the "Known for" to just "Journalism".

Done

Utilize the {{marriage}} template in the infobox.

Done

Change the link for Virginia to Colony of Virginia in the first sentence of the "Early life" section.

Done

A point is missing at the end of the "In 1755 Thomas Clap, President of Yale College, invited Benjamin Franklin to set up a printing press in New Haven, Connecticut. Benjamin Mecom, Clap's nephew, was to operate the press to publish the paper" sentence.

Done

Would prefer merging "Family", "Later life and death", and "Societies and churches" sections into a new section called "Personal life and death".

Done

Images

All are alright.

Sources

Source in the infobox can be removed per MOS:INFOBOXREF, it is stated down below in the text.

Done

"Holt learned that Parker would not resume the New-York Gazette and Weekly Post-Boy, so he continued the newspaper using the title until October 9, 1766 (no. 1240)." – unsourced.

Done

Bibliography is alright, would prefer to make them all into {{sfn}}'s though.

Done

@Vacant0: Not sure what you mean on this one. I use the "sfn" template for the inline references. I have the Harv Error tool installed on all 3 of my PCs and none show any Harv Errors. It would be automatic to show up if any of the "sfn" templates were not matched up correctly with the sources. Everything shows correctly to me.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:14, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Three {{cite web}} templates and one {{cite news}} template are located out of the Bibliography. As far as I'm aware, they should be moved to the Bibliography section. Vacant0 (talk) 21:28, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vacant0: I have done over 500 Did You Know articles and over 190 Good Articles and in my 14 years with Wikipedia that has never been brought up by anyone else. I don't understand that a "website" or "cite news" should be in a "sfn" as all "sfns" have a page number of the book. A Website or newspaper clip doesn't have a page number. It just doesn't make sense to me to include "cite web" or "cite news" into the Bibliography. In my 14 years in writing up articles no other editor has complained about how I reference the websites or newspaper clips (thousands done). I prefer to stick with what I have - thank you very much. To me it makes more sense and is logical.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: The article itself looks good, it meets most of the GA criteria. I will put it on hold until these issues get fixed, after which I will promote it to GA. Cheers, --Vacant0 (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vacant0: Thanks for review. Will get started on it. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:30, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vacant0: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:14, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting to GA. The issue with four cite templates is optional. Vacant0 (talk) 21:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vacant0: That makes 199 Good Articles. One more to go to get my goal.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wish you luck, Doug. Vacant0 (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] From Colonies to Country by Joy Hakim, page 121

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