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Concerns of bias in lede

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I have scarcely ever seen a more nakedly biased piece of text on Wikipedia than the latter half of the very lede here. Kind of shocking this has been allowed to stay substantially unaltered so long. It seems one user is very passionately edit-guarding this page to one-sidedly desecrate the legacy of someone who died not even a year ago. Shameless on multiple counts.

I will certainly be diving into the research to provide a thorough, truly unbiased summation of this man's life work, at some point. These edits will be well-cited, will interpret the literature accurately, and will provide a comprehensive, concise, and totally impartial summary of McDougall's ideas and influence. That does not mean bias to the contrary; it means no bias. Do not edit war when I get around to that, thanks.

KettleMettle (talk) 22:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please WP:FOC and take care with how you proceed. Sanctions apply. --Hipal (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not impressed with the recent edits by Vondercrump. The user has added unreliable sources and is removing sourced material such as Wardlaw's Perspectives in Nutrition [1] and giving no valid explanation. Their edits are marked as minor when these are not minor edits and no edit summaries given for their controversial removals. There is also a possibility of canvassing [2]. Psychologist Guy (talk) 22:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the words 'fad diet'

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I am a new editor and am learning. I promise to get better. I do have some suggestions for this page.

A fad diet is a weight loss plan that claims to produce quick results without scientific evidence to support its claims.

McDougall's way of eating does not claim to produce quick results without scientific evidence. I would respectfully request the word 'fad' be removed. It feels as though the 'owner' of this page has a biased opinion of him.

Also FYI he died in Portland Oregon.

Also, there are many things I would like to add such as his lifetime achievement award from the college of Lifestyle Medicine in 2018 and his participation in the USDA debate in 2000.

Vondercrump (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re fad diet - This has already been debated at Wikipedia for many years, check the archives of this talk-page. Fad diet is the name of a diet that makes pseudoscientific and unsubstantiated health claims not supported by clinical evidence. It fits the McDougall diet according to multiple WP:RS that we have on the topic. Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]