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Incomplete Introduction
[edit]The second sentence is kind of cut off. I have no clue how it is supposed to continue, however. MondSemmel 20:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
NPOV
[edit]Horribly non-NPOV. Obviously written by a runner with an axe to grind. :-) --Silvestre Zabala 16:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, Silvestre, the tools are here for you to rewrite it then. If you know best, don't criticise; edit! Over to you. The Advocate 09:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not a jogger and don't feel comfortable editing articles about topics where I don't have expertise. Your changes have elided most of the sentences which I found too strongly worded. Thank you. --Silvestre Zabala 14:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, much better. Thanks for your work, guys! --Lantoka 10:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- I still think the articles kinda makes it seem like Joggers are a class of people who just aren't as good as runners. It seems kinda silly actually.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 20:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I guess you jog if you attain between 40 and 80 percent of your maximum heart rate. Anything lower is "a brisk walk or less", anything higher is "running". MHR = 220bpm - your age. In order to calculate your exact MHR you need to factor-in to that formula your resting heart rate, but I have no clue about that formula's equation.
Image
[edit]Shouldn't the image be removed? It is of a Marine Running, after all. Jonathan235 21:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Frozen Babies
[edit]The snippets about babies-cum-icicles as their parents try to get some exercise are quite sensational. Shouldn't someone cite some actual news stories about this? I don't think ( Major City / Year ) is accepted form........ Ztrawhcs 21:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
What a craked-out ariticle
[edit]So...I'm I getting this right? To me, it seems like the point of this article is to say "joggers are inferior to runners, and they also kill children." It's kind of funny actually.--68.149.181.145 01:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, as a beginning jogger, it's kind of true. We aren't as fast or have as good form as runners, but while jogging is a similar activity, it is done for a different reason. - 219.194.176.15 13:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. This article is crappy. The Dutch version at least has some helpful information on tracks, gear aso. SA mtm 17:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Links
[edit]The link "IQ Health" doesn't work.
What is that link (JoggingStroller.com - Reviews and How to Guides)? It seems much more commercial that howtos.
Resources
[edit]i think we should list a resources on jogging ie how to start a jogging program, shoes etc. i think that would be very beneficial for those wanting to know more about jogging --Icobi 08:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a how-to guide and not a repository of links. The info would have to be referenced and meet the external links guidelines. The problem is people keep adding spam links, so I put a fair amount of scrutiny on what goes in as an external link. WLU 15:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Keep fit userbox
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Jogging vs. Running
[edit]As someone who runs frequently in Washington, DC in order to stay in shape, I'd like to say that, in my opinion, the term "running" has come to replace "jogging" in common usage. Among all of my friends and acquaintances, who include people in their 20's, 30's, 40's, and 50's, the word "running" is used to describe putting on running shoes and running or jogging any number of miles. In other words, the word "jogging" is simply not used anymore and has taken on an antiquated, even quaint, feel. It feels very much like a word that used to be used when running for exercise was not as common as it is today. Furthermore, currently the term "running" does not have to pertain only to running rapidly, or at full pace, or in a competitive manner. It can mean simply running slowly and steadily. Nor is running only used for certain places = running can be done on a trail, or through city streets. I feel that this clarifying sentiment should be added to the article on jogging. 71.255.244.180 23:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- I know joggers like to consider themselves as runners. The rest of the world just needs definition and words to describe the 3 forms of animal movement. And I don't think they're vague at all:
- slow pace movement: (walking) the intent is to move
- quick pace movement: (trotting) The intent is to endure a long distance quickly
- Moving as fast as possible: (running) The intent is to move as fast as possible
- I think we all agree the first item is called "walking" and the last item is called "running". Now all we need is a "word" for the in-between-form (and that so-called "runners" feel comfortable with). I thought it was "jogging" in English. In horse movement it is called "trotting". Here in Holland it is called "fast-walking". What will it be? 194.109.253.196 11:44, 3 March 2008 (CET)
- I thought I'd add that "fast walking" refers to a generally heels-first movement in which the stride length and number of footfalls is increased over normal walking. "Jogging" on the other hand would refer to a toes-first movement in which the Achilles tendon is engaged (storing some of the energy from each step). At a certain speed jogging becomes more efficient than fast walking (I'm about 2m high and the transition is around 6-7 kph), although both motions are possible until "running" is achieved. Running would be best defined as a motion which is similar to Jogging but in which stride length increases and both feet leave the ground during an "airborne" phase. Many animals can outwalk us, most can outrun us, but as a species we are the expert joggers. I don't have references on hand, though. --Hrimpurstala (talk) 20:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Anthropological, scientific and anatomical views on jogging
[edit]Jogging is believed to have played an important role in allowing humans to pursue wounded animals or make it to kill sites. With short breaks it is possible to jog almost continuously for more than twelve hours (or something like that - I heard it while discussing use of Hoodia by Bushmen). I belief that this article should reflect the important use of Jogging as a survival mechanism (and possible human optimisation for Jogging efficiency over running). Anyway, I don't have enough information ready and I expect to be busy in the near future, but here is a start: http://biomechanicslab.blogspot.com/2007/06/to-run-without-tail.html http://www.anthro.utah.edu/PDFs/bramble-n-432-345.pdf --Hrimpurstala (talk) 20:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- I want to add some more information of jogging's benefits does anyone know any reliable sources to look up Pholguin7 (talk) 08:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- After adding to the article is their any other benefits to add that others know? Pholguin7 (talk) 19:42, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Run sprint combo
[edit]- Instead of going for a plane old run or jog, why not try a combination of jog and sprint. First start off by going for a short run lets say 2 kilometres, whilst trying to beat 9-10 minutes for a warm up. Then after that do a combo of jog and sprint. An eight second sprint followed by a ten second jog. Do this for twenty minutes with out rest. The sprint is a hard sprint as to make one reach their threshold, whilst the ten second jog is a short breather. This meathod could be applied to swimming and cycling. I read somewhere that this is supposed to be the best way to loose body fat and a good way to keep fit. Its acually better than running at the same pace. I have been doing this for the last few months and I have found that this has brought out my abs better than anything else I have tried, including sittups. I have done long distance running, I have done hard runs up and down sand dunes HERE, I have done aerobics at the gym and nothing has worked better than this. Cheers Adam.J.W.C. 00:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is a talk page. Cheers_______Ad@m.J.W.C. 04:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not spam but a training tip for others to try. Cheers_______Ad@m.J.W.C. 08:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
- Once a reliable source is found some of the info could be used in one of the fitness related articles. There probably is a source, I just haven't looked yet. But this info was in the Sydney Telegraph or the Sydney Morning Herald. Cheers_______Ad@m.J.W.C. 01:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not spam but a training tip for others to try. Cheers_______Ad@m.J.W.C. 08:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I have recently found that jogging alone is not enough to keep fit. You could jog for years, think you are fit, then try something different and be in for a rude shock. You would need to add more variety to your training regime. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. 22:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
David Bowie also invented jogging in the 70s
[edit]This claim is made at the end of the 1999 to present: Neoclassicist Bowie section of the David Bowie article. My jaw dropped! What the hell are they talking about?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.243.181.66 (talk) 07:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Taming of the shrew
[edit]"In 1593 William Shakespeare wrote in Taming of the Shrew, Katerina tells off a gentleman to go jogging till his boots go green; this was a proverb meaning going when you are most ready or able."
- The article states that William Shakespeare wrote something but then that isnt in quotes and then the reference used links to a different translation?? which goes "You may be jogging while your boots are green". something should be done with this... perhaps another translation... also a citation for the meaning of the proverb maybe?? 70.71.22.45 (talk) 06:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
The inclusion of the Shakespeare quote, while interesting from an etymological perspective, feels awkward in this article. I recommend removal. Nailles (talk) 21:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
No Eating or Drinking BEFORE Jogging?
[edit]I can understand that if you try to jog or run on a full stomach, you might upset your stomach and end up vomiting. What I can't understand is that you shouldn't eat or drink ANYTHING before Jogging. Not even a small meal, water, or even a breakfast shake loaded with essential nutrients. What I just want to know about this is 'Why not?' --Arima (talk) 23:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
1970's Jogging craze
[edit]When I searched for this article I was hoping to find more information about the fitness/jogging craze in the 1970's which included jogging suits, running specific shoes, and the start of many long distance races in the US... I will be trying to edit that info into this article unless anyone has any objections. --Tgottsdo (talk) 23:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Books
[edit]These books are put as a separate "Reference" section in the main article. I move them here until they can be used in conventional Wikipedia "ref".
- The Complete Book of Running (Hardcover) by James Fixx, Random House; 1st edition (September 12, 1977) ISBN 0-394-41159-5
- Jim Fixx's Second Book of Running (Hardcover) by James Fixx, Random House; 1st edition (March 12, 1980) ISBN 0-394-50898-X
- Jogging by William J. Bowerman and W.E. Harris, with James M. Shea; New York, Grosset & Dunlap [1967]LCCN 67016154 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ancos (talk • contribs) 03:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- I've restored the book list, but in a section separate from the References. These are some of the classic texts on the subject, were probably used as general sources for the article, and remain useful and of interest regardless. Hertz1888 (talk) 06:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: English 101.02 Writing and Rhetoric I
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disambiguation page?
[edit]how does one go about making a disambiguation page for the other various types of jogging, like in electronics where "jogging" is a "term given to the momentary energization of a motor" as seen in many electronic entertainment products of the 90's, for example steering wheels for videos games with "active jogging technology" just to name one prime example.
or would that be better served as a "see also" header on the main jogging page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.140.78.190 (talk) 21:16, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
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