Talk:Joe Aiello/GA1
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Reviewer: Freikorp (talk · contribs) 12:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Very well written article. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. There are just a couple points i'd like addressed before this is passed. Freikorp (talk) 13:40, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'm passing this now as issues have been addressed; well done. Freikorp (talk) 22:23, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Initial review
[edit]GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
Grammar check: "Authorities believed was related to the Chicago feud", "Aiello was said to have been shot at least 13 times before toppled off"- I believe I've addressed both ("Authorities believed the kiling was related to..." "...at least 13 times before he toppled off...") — Hunter Kahn 16:39, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
- A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. Has an appropriate reference section:
- B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
"Besides the hearse, all that remained of the procession was a car containing Aiello's widow Catherine and three Ford Sedans containing flowers."[citation needed] Obviously, this is going to either need a citation of be removed before this nomination is passed.- Ah, yes, I thought I had removed this before nominating it for GAN because I was unable to find a source for this specifically. I have removed it, and also added a few new citations for the sentence right before this one, which describes where Aiello was buried. — Hunter Kahn 16:39, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- C. No original research:
- A. Has an appropriate reference section:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
I'm surprised their are no images in this article. Are you absolutely certain you can't obtain an image of Aiello under fair use rationale? After placing an image of Aiello in the inbox, i'm sure you could also find a couple of other relevant images of other gangsters mentioned, or of the areas mentioned at the time.- I have found two images of Joe Aiello from old archived Chicago Tribune articles: here and here. I suppose it could qualify for fair use under the #8 historical significance and #10 pictures of diseased persons categories, but I was unsure because #10 specifically says images from press agencies are ineligible. Given the age of these particular images, I should think they would be acceptable, but maybe you could give me some input? — Hunter Kahn 16:39, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm, #10 is interesting, but I think it shouldn't apply due to the age of these images. I previously reviewed the article Lum You, which justified the newspaper image of Lum using the Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States, which can be found here. The image of Lum was produced before 1923, so had no copyright restrictions. The only copyright restrictions on images between 1923 and 1977, according to this document, is that as long as the were published without a copyright notice they can be used, which appears to be the case with these examples. You won't have any issues adding a picture of Capone to the either the 'Feud begins with Al Capone' or next section, as there are images of Capone that are already in the public domain. Freikorp (talk) 23:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- OK, I've added an infobox image of Joe Aiello based on a non fair use rationale that I believe is appropriate and correct. I've also added an image of Al Capone, per your suggestion. Let me know if you had any questions about either! — Hunter Kahn 18:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
- The word 'pictured in the Capone picture is probably unnecessary, but otherwise I think these improve the article. Freikorp (talk) 22:23, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
- OK, I've added an infobox image of Joe Aiello based on a non fair use rationale that I believe is appropriate and correct. I've also added an image of Al Capone, per your suggestion. Let me know if you had any questions about either! — Hunter Kahn 18:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm, #10 is interesting, but I think it shouldn't apply due to the age of these images. I previously reviewed the article Lum You, which justified the newspaper image of Lum using the Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States, which can be found here. The image of Lum was produced before 1923, so had no copyright restrictions. The only copyright restrictions on images between 1923 and 1977, according to this document, is that as long as the were published without a copyright notice they can be used, which appears to be the case with these examples. You won't have any issues adding a picture of Capone to the either the 'Feud begins with Al Capone' or next section, as there are images of Capone that are already in the public domain. Freikorp (talk) 23:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
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