Talk:Jessica Jones season 2

Production wrapped?

According to instagram photos, filming is complete. Not sure if this is enough to add. - DinoSlider (talk) 18:02, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

I think it is, and I've added it in the article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:53, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Shoutouts

The brief appearance by Maynard Tiboldt is nice, by the way... (I'm still only up to episode 8-beginning so maybe "brief appearance" is only accurate up to episode 8, of course.) Schissel | Sound the Note!

Name discrepancies in episode summaries

I noticed that episode summaries mix first and last names when referring to characters. Are there conventions here? The history seems to suggest that users have switched between first and last names for secondary characters, but maintain first names for the primary characters ("Jessica" and "Trish"). The TV show primarily uses first names to refer to characters except in specific cases. The discrepancy makes it difficult to follow the summaries when coming to them from the show. Just checking. - Maikegotchi (talk) 17:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

The characters are all introduced with their full names, and then surnames are used from there unless there is a confusion issue between multiple characters with the same surname. In this case, we start using first names for characters like Jessica and Trish around episode 7 where we start dealing with multiple members of their families. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:33, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

"the cast list is for actors and character names only"

@Adamstom.97: Regarding this edit, would you mind linking me to the relevant policy or guideline? You have taken the exact opposite position on, for example, the GOTG2 article (where completely unsourced character bios are included along with the names, and misattributed to sources that just list the names[1]) to the one you are taking here.

I mean, I guess the fact that your version of this article includes the unsourced claim that the character Tennant plays is Kilgrave (who doesn't actually appear either in flashback or having been resurrected) when the source actually says it is not sure of the nature of Tennant's role makes this not unlike the film articles. For all the source you cite knew, Tennant was playing Kilgrave's not-evil twin, Milgrave; he might have even been playing a completely unrelated character like Woodard apparently played in Civil War and Luke Cage, as a joke.

But still, I really doubt your intention was that we should consistently include information that is unsourced.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:15, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

I know you like bagging on me for no good reason and bringing up irrelevant issues at different talk pages, but can we just stick to the issue at hand please? The cast list, as I'm sure you can clearly see, is just listing names of actors and characters, with further details given in prose in the casting section. That's just how the article is set up at the moment. There is no need to get silly about policy or guidelines. It's just how the article is set up. You are free to disagree with that and propose it be changed, and this talk page is the perfect place to do that if you so choose. As for Tennant returning as a hallucination of Kilgrave vs. the actual Kilgrave, we need to be careful not to get caught up in the in-universe minutiae. It is fine to explain his return in the prose, which I have done, but saying in a cast list that he portrays Kilgrave, from a real-world perspective, just is not incorrect. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:16, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

I know you like bagging on me for no good reason and bringing up irrelevant issues at different talk pages, but can we just stick to the issue at hand please? Your off-topic personal comments aside, I don't see how it's "irrelevant" -- on the film pages you actively campaign for the inclusion of questionable character bios in the cast sections, but here you are doing the opposite. The cast list, as I'm sure you can clearly see, is just listing names of actors and characters, with further details given in prose in the casting section. Again, this is not how it is done in our articles on other properties within this same franchise. That's just how the article is set up at the moment. ... It's just how the article is set up. If it is broke, don't not fix it. There is no need to get silly about policy or guidelines. Sorry -- I was assuming you had some sort of consistent, PAG-based reasoning for adding unsourced character bios to the film articles but removing necessary factual clarification from the TV ones. You are free to disagree with that and propose it be changed, and this talk page is the perfect place to do that if you so choose. I don't see anywhere on this talk page where consensus was established for your version, so you can't call "status quo -- please discuss on the talk page" when I provide a reasoned argument for the change. As for Tennant returning as a hallucination of Kilgrave vs. the actual Kilgrave, we need to be careful not to get caught up in the in-universe minutiae. Our article on season one clearly establishes that Kilgrave is dead; saying anywhere in this article that Kilgrave is in this season implies that either (a) he has been resurrected or (b) he appears in a flashback. This reeks of fan speculation and rumour (which is actually what the Entertainment Weekly source your version cites is) even after that speculation is outdated. The simple fact is that Kilgrave isn't in this season; Tennant plays the imaginary devil on the protagonist's shoulder, who looks like Kilgrave, which (in real-world terms) is no different from him playing a different character who happens to look like him. saying in a cast list that he portrays Kilgrave, from a real-world perspective, just is not incorrect Umm ... yeah, I guess not: he portrays Kilgrave in season one of Jessica Jones, which was in 2015; in this season he plays hallucination of the dead Kilgrave. Maybe if this weren't a fantasy show set in a world where resurrection has been repeatedly portrayed as possible, it wouldn't be misleading (not saying anything about correctness) to state that he portrays Kilgrave, but it is, it has, and it is. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:44, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

BTW, the source your version cites is technically invalid for the claim that he plays Kilgrave; it is only good for the claim that he appears in the season. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:47, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Do you want to have a serious discussion about this or are you going to continue with these nonsense personal comments? It honestly isn't that difficult just to state the change you want to make and why you want to make it, and then let other editors respond. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:33, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Umm... did you read any of my serious discussion about the content? I directly changed the article and you reverted me, so it should be obvious what change I want, and your above non-response indicates that even though I painstakingly explained why I wanted to make it you didn't even read it. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:49, 2 April 2018 (UTC)