Talk:Jerry Frankel

A fact from Jerry Frankel appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 December 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Broadway producer Jerry Frankel sometimes named racehorses after his shows, their songs and actors?

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Question

Zigzig20s in the 1st sentence, section Career - “until he founded his own company in Dallas, Texas, Jerrell.” - is Jerrell the company’s name, or a county in Dallas, or ....? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 13:49, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The name of his company. Please rephrase it if you think the syntax could be improved. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've just moved "Jerrell" around. Better?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eponyms

User:Atsme: Could you please add this info to the body of the text and reference it? The lede is supposed to be a summary. It's fine for it to appear in the lede, but we need it in the body of the text first!Zigzig20s (talk) 18:36, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Ooops - just now seeing this. Apologies, Zigzig20s...you have to ping me to get my attention when I’m focused on copyediting and/or expanding - especially when I’m using my iPad (which sucks for editing). I don’t take breaks until the task at hand is done. I commented on your TP but when checking my notices, I now see that you removed it. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 18:39, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Atsme: Yes I archive topics regularly, but thanks for that. The eponym thing in the lede still needs to appear in the body and be referenced though!Zigzig20s (talk) 18:42, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is my intention to include it. I work differently from what some editors do in that the lead serves as my outline for the body rather than the reverse. Right now I’m researching additional information to add so I’ll go ahead and put an in-use tag on the article while I’m working so we don’t walk over each other’s edits. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 18:59, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and Zigzig20s what do you think about a DYK nom for this one? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 19:03, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We could, the eponym thing could be hooky if referenced properly. I tried to nominate it for RD but it was too late.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Atsme: Thanks for clarifying the eponym thing. Do you want to start the DYK?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Would you? I'm not so good at noms. My focus is hooks and prose, reviewing, etc. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 21:52, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Atsme: What would the hook be?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on that now but we have another issue. There's a redirect for Jerry Frankel that needs to be replaced by the dab - can you do that? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 21:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:04, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll give it a go. We need to get that fixed first. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 22:05, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Atsme: Looks like that's been done. Now we need a hooky DYK.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:09, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was! OMG - I followed the sequence and there's no way I could have done it without the help of Winged Blades of Godric and admin David Eppstein. They deserve a show of WikiLove. 🤗 Ok, so now let's focus on the hook. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 17:15, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hook suggestions

Zigzig20s, here are a few hooks I thought of...and I'm pinging master hooker EEng to see if he has anything in his bag of tricks. I'm just wondering if readers will know Linda Eder? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 02:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK...that Linda Eder not only performed for her keep, she was owned by Broadway producer Jerry Frankel?
DYK...that Linda Eder looked and smelled like a horse, could run as fast as any Thoroughbred, and was owned by Broadway producer Jerry Frankel?

So this is an article about another producer mistreating young women? --GRuban (talk) 22:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help with the hook, GRuban!!! My suggestions are running dead last! ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 22:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'd run with that, actually. " ...that Broadway producer Jerry Frankel ran racehorses named after songs and actresses from his shows?" Not quite as offensive, but still a hook. --GRuban (talk) 23:08, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"...that Broadway producer Jerry Frankel named racehorses after songs and actresses in his shows?" E Eng 04:39, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I like this one. How many more days do I have left to do the review please? I am quite busy in RL this week, but I could do it quickly.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's all yours, Zigzig20s. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 02:24, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I need to do the review by Saturday for it to go through.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:10, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zigzig20s - do you need for me to do anything? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 16:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like to do the review? I can do it otherwise, but not right now. I assume this will be a shared DYK.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:41, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll do the review - you go ahead and co-nom for DYK. Does that work for you? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 17:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK. They may ask us to do a review each, but I am not sure.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:44, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that you're very busy, and there's a deadline to meet so I'll just do it myself. Thanks. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 23:17, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]