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On 19 September 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved. The result of the discussion was disambiguated at basename.

Requested move 19 September 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: disambiguated at basename. There is not a clear consensus that Jeff Chan (basketball), but there is a clear consensus that the saxophonist is not the primary topic. A new RM could be opened to determine whether the basketball player is the primary topic. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 22:22, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Chan → ?
Jeff Chan (basketball) → ?

– Comparing the page views for the past 7 years, the basketball players has the higher average than the saxophonist (even Jeffery Paul Chan averages more than the saxophonist). It's clear the saxophonist is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC anymore, but I am also quite unsure if the page view difference is significant enough to conclude that the basketball players is the new primary topic. So I say move the saxophonist's article and create a dab page at the name without the dab. I'm unsure though if "saxophonist", "composer", or "musician" should be the dab for the new page name of the saxophonist's article (if moved). ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 08:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Elli (talk | contribs) 05:14, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I see the name Jeff Chan, I tend to think of Jeff Chan (film director). Perhaps the best thing to do would be to make Jeff Chan point to a new Jeff Chan (disambiguation) page, and link Jeff Chan (saxophonist), Jeff Chan (basketball), Jeff Chan (film director), and any other Jeff Chans (and Jeffrey/Jefferson Chans) that may be out there. Grutness...wha? 12:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support moving Jeff Chan (basketball) to Jeff Chan, and Jeff Chan to Jeff Chan (saxophonist) as it's not even close. Ever since Wikipedia kept page view stats, the Filipino basketball player has 32 page views per day vs. the undisambiguated American musician with a paltry 6 per day and the disambiguated American film director has 0 per day. If this doesn't scream WP:PRIMARYTOPIC to you, I dunno what would. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:02, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support the baseball player has 3,818 views, Jeffery Paul Chan has 198 compared with only 169[[1]] for this one. Perhaps use Jeff Chan (saxophonist) and have the base name as a DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:03, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dab at base name, support (saxophonist) or any other reasonable disambiguator. Film director article was created less than a month ago. Open to deciding if basketball player is primary in at least a couple months' time, when we have more data. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 23:23, 2 October 2022 (UTC) Bolded for emphasis 18:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We have stats as old as the stats itself. What else are we looking for? Howard the Duck (talk) 13:40, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Closer can decide how useful pageview stats less than a month old, DuckDuckGo, and Google query results are for determining long-term significance. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Yeah, if any of the Jeff Chans are truly primary topic material, they should have massive page views regardless of article age. Page views from the start once we had these stats is clear. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:23, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.