Talk:Javanese cuisine

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Chinese influence on Javanese cuisine

Lee788's edit seems to forcefully assert that Javanese cuisine is mostly influenced by Chinese cuisine. While I do not deny that there is some traces of Chinese influences in some of Javanese cuisine (soto, bakso, lumpia), but there is also some indigenous elements not found in Chinese cuisine such as urab, pecel and gudeg, as well as other traditions such as gulai from Indian influences, and European derived bistik and selat solo. Gudeg is indigenous, as cooking raw/uripe jackfruit in coconut milk is known in ancient Java, so with urab which is derived from ancient Java kuluban. Instead of indulging in revert game, let me challenge your thesis of so called "overwhelming Chinese influence" in Javanese cuisine with providing valid references. Let me inform you, being "influenced" is not the same as "Javanese cuisine is more influenced by Chinese". Suspiciously, Lee788's edit is somewhat a form of Chinese chauvinism that regard Chinese as the source of everything and exagerrated Chinese influences. We should write this article fairly without undue representation of Chinese influences. Please go fetch some refs. — Gunkarta talk 20:53, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your statement. It states that some of the javanese dishes made from the locals are less accurate. Its not only lumpia,bakmi and soto, however bakpia,mie koclok,nasi ayam,jepara pangsit soup,bko mento..etc are examples of Javanese food is largely influenced by Chinese cuisine.Lee788 talk 5:10, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Great, and you can prove it with secondary sources. Drmies (talk) 21:18, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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