Talk:Jane Fernandes

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9thprez.com is a propaganda website. Heavily biased websites are unacceptable in wikipedia.

To that person working for the Univ adm who keeps on deleting the paragraph about the protest: It is a FACT that there is a large number of students and the faculty protesting her selection. Accept it. Leave the page alone.

"Students objected to the appointment of Jane Fernandes ... because she did not grow up using American Sign Language." I'm quite sure washington post is considered as a verified source. If you don't like WP's opinion, tough. Anyway, this appear to be one of the major reason for objection initially which was later switched to something more acceptable.Vapour

Nope, the Washington Post didn't understand the reasons for protesting at first due to communication problems. It's really unethical of you to include early newspaper coverage when reporters didn't understand the subject fully. Pulsar20

What reasons if not cultural?

"Specifically, Fernandes attracted opposition due to her opposition to establishing an ASL-only environment on campus..." This is a pure conjecture. Not to mention the fact that JKF never indicated such a position, she actually uses ASL both on and off campus. The crucial reason for the protest against JKF's appointment and the subsequent JKF defeat is JKF's lack of leadership. At no time have we seen supporters rallying behind her during the protest.

Hello, I've been trying to follow this controversy and have been having a hard time. Basically, the first version of the story I've heard is the "not deaf enough" version; later, I've heard that this is a "caricature", but haven't heard any specific other reasons cited. This article is frustratingly vague on the subject, saying only that "The protesters point to her past decisions that they feel are questionable and don't reflect qualities of a solid leader" and "Some students also criticized Fernandes for not having warm relations with students". These strike me as being extremely nonspecific for someone who has engendered such depth of feeling. I'm not doubting that there are other reasons for opposition to her appointment, but I would like to hear more specific reasons. What past decisions of hers are questionable and reflect poorly on her leadership? Are there specific incidents of relations with students that are less than warm? And if protest signs at Gallaudet are readin "You're killing our culture!" (as cited here), how does that fit in with the alternative explanation? --Jfruh (talk) 01:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Jfruh, you can find all answers from the other side of the coin (from JKF): Gallaudet FSSA's website: http://about.gufssa.com/ . You will see the 4 core issues that FSSA has regarding the protest and you can also click on the questions on the right side for additional details. Hope this helps. Cflannagan 23:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Quote from application

What's with all the references to her race in the quote? Does this have some meaning within the Deaf community that people outside of that community do not understand? Like is there some significant difference between the white Deaf community and the Deaf communities of other races? This needs to be explained. As it stands, it looks like she might be racist for mentioning her race, even repeatedly, when it doesn't appear to be at all relevant. If there's some info that would clarify this to people outside the Deaf community, it really needs to be added. --68.239.140.92 19:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm a Gallaudet student and I can say nobody understands her intention for making a such statement. You can read the whole thing: http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:yrxsPs0KB80J:pr.gallaudet.edu/presidentalsearch/%3FID%3D8639+jane+fernandes+white+gallaudet&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=safari (the statement's near the closing) My guess is that she was trying to show how aware she is of the importance of racial identity. pulsar20

Again

I'm sorry for doing POV (I thought the "reproaches on her non-ASL education as well as misgivings concerning her position on racial issues" were the reasons for the protests, and thus considered "facts"). If, however, my "try" to explain the meaning failed, the question that the quote should express has to be rewarmed! Even more, as I can't find any reference to verify it. FloK 23:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Clarification

My guess...some may think "Fernandes" may indicate she is Hispanic/Latina. She is clarifying that she is white, so that she is not wrongly assumed to be a diversity hire. 24.167.52.195 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Bringing NPOV Back

I was astonished to find the entire section about the protest was pro-Fernandes. Commentary on the opposing views was derisive and a clear negative subtext was present. I was tempted to wipe out the entire section and start over, but in the interest of keeping things as NPOV as possible, I simply provided an alternative viewpoint. Whoever was posting such pro-Fernandes commentary and criticizing the protesters so harshly, please respect the NPOV goals of Wikipedia and leave both sections intact. -Etoile 14:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Citation of Application

I'll be honest, while I find the conclusion of her application kind of odd, I think its unfair to cite the part that is cited, as she follows it up with the statement that she DOES believe in visual communication. I'm going to change it so its a fuller quote (though it still oddball as hell to mention that she's white over and over again, when the issue she seems most concerned about is the fact that she was a late user of ASL and her family was oral, not visual). SiberioS (talk) 07:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

weird sentence

I have no idea what this means, and I speak pretty good English: "In the meaning time she has generations of Deaf families." So I can't even try to edit this into something meaningful; I don't know the meaning of it. 188.204.147.121 (talk) 09:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

It refers to the fact that her parents and several other family members are deaf. The sentence is unspecific and irrelevant, given that her parents' deafness is mentioned in the preceding line. As it's not important to the article, I've taken out the sentence. -Etoile ✩ (talk) 11:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

"Viewpoint of Fernandes Supporters" Section

The content of the Viewpoint of Fernandes Supporters section seems to only contain negative information about her. It would seem that most of it is more appropriate for the Viewpoint of Fernandes Opponents section. I am unfamiliar with this situation, but the article seems not to be neutral to me. Specifically, the following excerpts from this section do not seem to characterize "support" of Fernandes:

• scores of students protested against her appointment
• Students objected to the appointment of Jane Fernandes
• Some students also criticized Fernandes for...
• Opponents of Fernandes claim...
• Fernandes also attracted opposition due to...
• Allegations of racism in appointing Fernandes, who is white, were also raised.
• organizations of students of color had protested...
• 36% gave Fernandes an "acceptable" rating, compared to 53% and 64% for the two other finalists.

--Chrisirwin (talk) 14:13, 18 July 2012 (UTC)