Talk:Ivan Beshoff

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A fact from Ivan Beshoff appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 September 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Ivan Beshoff, the last survivor of the mutiny on the Potemkin, emigrated to Ireland where he established a fish and chip shop that is still run by his descendants?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ivan Beshoff.

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 09:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Ivan Beshoff, the last survivor of the mutiny on the Potemkin, emigrated to Ireland where he established a fish and chip shop that is still run by his descendants? Source: "Ivan Beshoff, Last Survivor Of Mutiny on the Potemkin ... He settled in Ireland in 1913, saying he had tired of the sea ... After World War II, he opened a fish and chips shop in Dublin." from: >"Ivan Beshoff, Last Survivor Of Mutiny on the Potemkin". The New York Times. 28 October 1987. Retrieved 6 September 2023. and "began building what, by 1939, would be the origin of a legacy that has, thus far, spanned three generations - Beshoff's Fish & Chips. Many decades on, the legacy of Ivan Beshoff lives on through the current generation." from: "Beshoffs Restaurant". Visit Dublin. Retrieved 6 September 2023.
- ALT1: ... that after participating in the mutiny on the Potemkin, Ivan Beshoff decided to settle in Ireland following a meeting with Vladimir Lenin and James Larkin? Source: " socialist, Beshoff was one of the crew of the Russian battleship Potemkin that mutinied in the Black Sea (27 June 1905). When the ship docked at the Romanian port of Constantia he escaped and made his way to London; there he met Lenin, who in 1911 introduced him to James Larkin (qv), thus kindling an interest in Ireland that led to a visit to Dublin (1913) when he was on his way to Canada. On missing his ship, Beshoff decided to stay and to take on the Irish agency of the Russian oil company ROP, which he retained until the company ceased trading (1940)." from: Woods, C. J. "Beshoff, Ivan". Dictionary of Irish Biography. Retrieved 6 September 2023.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Keith Halnan

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 06:16, 8 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ivan Beshoff; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Pinging @Dumelow: because one issue is the hook fact for ALT0 is not cited correctly in the article. I believe that the very last line in the article needs this citation <ref name=nyt/> added. The article is new enough and long enough. The QPQ is done, the article is neutral and I do not see evidence of plagiarism. The article used the correct inline citations. I prefer ALT0 once it is cited correctly as I find it more interesting. Also ALT1 is not worded great with two instances of the word after. Bruxton (talk) 18:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FYI should add a short description. (not dyk related} Bruxton (talk) 18:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bruxton, good spot on the missing citation, fixed. I reworded ALT1 a bit but happy for ALT0 to run, if that's preferred. I never know what to put in the short description especially for subjects with multiple careers but I've had a go - Dumelow (talk) 09:49, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bruxton (talk) 13:45, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]