Talk:Isn't It a Pity

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Isn't It a Pity/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GreatOrangePumpkin (talk · contribs) 16:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall: Great article! Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 11:14, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

   Pass/Fail:

Excellent − thank you once again, GoP. JG66 (talk) 12:23, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Libelling McCartney

There is a book written by Andrew Grant Jackson that insinuates that George suffered from Paul's habit of "dictating" how he, John and Ringo should play and this needs to be reworded or removed completely, in case it's considered potentially libellous. You mustn't believe everything you read and the idea that George "suffered" because of Paul is just poppycock and it does tend to be blown out of proportion according to one of Steve Hoffman's forums, because he never lost his ability to play the guitar. 124.168.162.183 (talk) 09:16, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry but this is one of the most misinformed talk-page posts I've seen in ten years of contributing to Wikipedia. "... according to one of Steve Hoffman's forums" ... good lord. Where to start?

The idea of McCartney dictating how the other Beatles should play is so widely covered, it's untrue. EMI engineer Norman Smith commented on it when recalling the Rubber Soul sessions; Starr's walkout during the White Album was triggered by McCartney's criticism of his drumming ("constant hectoring", as one biographer terms it); in a taped 1969 conversation – perhaps it's straight after Harrison walks out of the Twickenham rehearsals, not sure – McCartney and Lennon discuss this trait of McCartney's, and Lennon tells him something along the lines of "You've even treated me like a session player, you know" (and McCartney doesn't threaten to sue him, btw). Howard Sounes' McCartney biography Fab is filled with similar complaints from McCartney's post-Beatles collaborators. Back in 1971, after quitting the Ram sessions, Dave Spinozza told the press he was expected to play exactly what McCartney had thought out before ... There's even a very revealing audio clip I heard online years ago, where McCartney is highly emotional, sounds like in tears, and ruing how he has this habit of taking over everything, because it's just the way he is – I think the clip might be from the telephone conversation he had with Hunter Davies in early 1982 and which Davies, bizarrely, chose to report in print.

This point is undisputed in the Beatles literature. And Harrison's frustration with the Beatles in the late '60s – with Lennon also – is particularly relevant to this song, surely, because "Isn't It a Pity" was repeatedly overlooked by the band. And the musicians who recorded All Things Must Pass with him in 1970 couldn't have been more receptive to Harrison's songs, by all accounts; and equally, they all say what a generous musician and collaborator he was, just letting them find themselves in each song ... What a contrast. JG66 (talk) 10:08, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply and assistance. This is the forum page that talks about things being blown out of proportion. None of The Beatles have confirmed Norman Smith's claims about the "Rubber Soul" sessions. 124.168.162.183 (talk) 12:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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