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A fact from Isaac Franklin appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a bust of the notorious slave trader Isaac Franklin was placed on the prow of his slave ship, the Isaac Franklin?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Isaac Franklin.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 14:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a bust of notorious slave trader Isaac Franklin was placed on the prow of his slave ship, Isaac Franklin? Source: Rothman, Joshua D. (Apr 20, 2021). The Ledger and the Chain: How Domestic Slave Traders Shaped America. New York: Basic Books. ISBN 9781541616592. p. 248 "[...] the Isaac Franklin had one other very distinctive feature. Described as a “man bust head,” it was a carving of the head and torso of Isaac Franklin himself, affixed to the prow."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1916 Warsaw City Council election

5x expanded by Generalissima (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 38 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Article is newly 5x expanded and certainly long enough. The majority of sources used are either peer-reviewed academic journal articles or books from respected academic publishers, so I have no issues with accepting offline sources in good faith. The dated sources (1931/1943) are used sparingly and in appropriate context. Earwig returns no likelihood of copyright violation, although as noted a number of sources are offline. The article is well written and I see no neutrality issues - assessments of his actions are appropriately attributed to sources and contextualised. Possibly some additional commentary from modern writers could be included in the #Legacy section at some point, but this is not critical for the DYK nom. The hook is interesting – you had plenty to choose from – and reliably sourced as per the quote. The images used are correctly licensed, and QPQ is done. Thanks User:Generalissima for bringing this article on a significant historical figure up to scratch - I would see this as needing very little work to get it to GA/FA status if you would like to pursue a nomination. ITBF (talk) 10:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 20:13, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Isaac Franklin/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 06:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Unexpectedlydian (talk · contribs) 20:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I will be reviewing this article as part of Good review circle 3. I'll be using the table below. Comments to follow soon! Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 20:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Generalissima, thank you for your work on this article - an interesting subject, well-written and well-sourced. I've left some comments below. Feel free to push back wherever you think necessary! Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 14:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Lead he was able to purchase a massive property Not sure about the word "massive here" - could just be conflicting dialect, but seems a bit casual. Could change to something like "large"? There are a mumber of instances of the word "massive" throughout the article. If you agree, I'd suggest changing a few. Removed most of the usages of massive here. - G Early life and family Maybe link "frontier"? I'm not familiar too familiar with the history or geography so wouldn't be able to tell you what it refers to. Okay. - G James Franklin amassed hundreds of acres of property along the north shore of the Cumberland River, alongside a significant number of slaves: by the end of the 1810s, he owned 26 enslaved people. Does the "significant number of slaves" refer to 26, or is it implied that the number had reduced to 26 by the end of the 1810s? The 26. I realize adding a period clarifies this a bit more. - G where he was instructed in the "mere rudiments of education". State in the prose that this is a quote from Rothman. Oh, it's not actually from Rothman; it's a quote there too. It seems to be from an obituary. Early career By 1821, he mainly purchased from the mid-Atlantic. Could you link "mid-Atlantic" or maybe expand a bit on what/where this means? Clarified. Franklin & Armfield Later described as a "three-story townhouse attached to a massive private jail" and "Franklin's black hole" Described by who? Clarified and rephrased. Planting A complex of 15–20 brick slave houses "laid out like a small town" was erected on the property Who described it this way? Worth adding something in the prose about said that. Realized I could just paraphrase here. Personal life and death Y Legacy Y
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead sections Y Layout Y Words to watch See comment in section 1a about the repetition of the word "massive". Fiction N/A List incorporation N/A
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	References and citations are in the correct sections and well-formatted.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Source review No issues found with the reliability or relevance of sources. Spot check I will start by reviewing approx. 10% of citations. Rothman 2022 Some citations used for Rothman 2022 cite pages which are not part of the article. Are these citations maybe meant for Rothman 2021 instead? For instance, citation numbers 44, 58 and 59. Oops, yes. My bad; fixed. - G p.227 Y pp. 237-242 Y p.243 Could be missing something, but the first para of "Bypass of trade restrictions" doesn't seem to be backed up by p.243? P.243 refers immediately to the November 19, 1831 legislature, not the August 1831 slave rebellion or Franklin being worried about the legislature passing. Ah, fixed the cite. It's the last part of 242 and the first of 243. -G p.249 Y Stephenson 1938 p.12 Y pp.14-16 Y pp. 55-56 Y Tadman 2007 p.254 Y Christian 1976 p.7 Y Bancroft 1931 pp.58-59 Y Gudmestad 2003 pp.24-25 Y
	2c. it contains no original research.	Content from spot-checks that this contains no original research. ~~Will check back in after prose review.~~
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Source spot-checks show no clear evidence of copyvio or plagiarism. Copyvio detector brings up nothing of concern.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Main aspects of the topic are all addressed.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Detailed history of life and business, but I'm content that none of it is unfocussed.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Article content is presented neutrally. This is handled well for the contentious subject.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	No evidence of edit-warring or instability.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Images are all tagged with copyright status.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Images are all relevant to the topic and well-described.
	7. Overall assessment.

@Unexpectedlydian: Okay, I think I've resolved everything! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalissima Great work, very happy to pass this now! Unexpectedlydian^♯4 talk^‽ 20:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.