Talk:Iron Gates/Archive 1

Archive 1

Plural?

Isn't the correct english term in plural: Iron Gates? Also, Google prefers the plural form. ("Iron gates" romania serbia: 1030, "iron gate" romania serbia: 633.) Sander Spek 07:15, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I'm afraid I've been silly and created a redirect from Iron Gates to here before reading this comment. I think you may be right, in which case we need an admin to shuffle things around. Sorry, people. JRM 22:59, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)

Merger

This page was merged with a translated version of nl:IJzeren Poort. The latter was a featured article of the Dutch Wikipedia. See also: featured articles in the Dutch Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Translation into English. Featured or not, keep improving it! JRM 22:59, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)

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> "People were relocated, but the occupations have been lost forever to the Danube." What does "occupations" mean here? Does it mean the inhabitants (people), or the contents (things -- perhaps artifacts), or something else? Sivamo 23:38, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Did I write that? I must have been smoking something. I was translating the Dutch "nederzettingen" ("settlements"), and I can't offer any explanation but having confused it with "bezettingen" ("occupations", as in "wartime occupation"). Corrected, thanks for mentioning it. (And I wonder if there's any linguistic term for this sort of slip-up...) JRM 08:46, 2004 Nov 29 (UTC)

I'm from Serbia, and I'm quite sure that Iron Gate's name in Serbian is "Ђердапска клисура / Đerdapska klisura", not "Гвоздена врата / Gvozdena vrata", as it was written, so I changed it. "Gvozdena vrata" is a literal translation of the english name "Iron Gate", which is not used in Serbian.

Mechanical traction

"The results of these efforts were slightly disappointing. The currents in the channel were so strong that, until 1973, ships had to be dragged upstream by locomotive"

Can anybody expand on this? Does it mean that there was a towpath with rails, or that there was a fleet of tugs? MarkMLl (talk) 21:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The latter. A section of "Guilt Edged", the autobiography of Merlin Minshall, describes a 1940 SOE mission to block the channel by judicious sinking of ships in it, thereby closing the river to tankers ferrying oil from the Romanian oilfields to the Third Reich. The plan was thwarted by the Nazis but Minshall apparently succeeded in destroying the locomotive with the aid of an Air-Sea Rescue launch packed with explosives, jumping into the river shortly before impact. Mr Larrington (talk) 18:26, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Name

Why is the name given in Slovak, Hungarian, German and many other languages. The relevant languages here would seem to be English (English Wikipedia), Rumanian and Serbian as it is located in these countries.JdeJ (talk) 19:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Name

It is there in so many languages (though the reason for the Slovakian version I don't understand either) because of the following reasons 1) the Danube used to be a very important international shippnig route throughout history, and this point used to be particularly important. 2) This region now belongs to Serbia and Romania, you are right, but it used to belong to several different countries in the past, just like Голубац/Golubac = Taubenberg (German --> Austro-Hungary) = Gögerdsinlik (Turkish)= Galambóc (Hungarian), that used to belong to Serbs, Turks, Hungarians and the rulers changed quite often.Myrmeleon formicarius (talk) 13:30, 5 May 2010 (UTC)