Talk:International organization
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"International organization" not the same as "Intergovernmental organization"
[edit]Was a REDIRECT to Talk:Intergovernmental organization, but they are separate articles. 121.45.74.24 (talk) 10:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
The European Union IS NOT an IGO... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.8.194.5 (talk) 16:27, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I believe that this needs more clarification on this page. This page seems to conflate the two terms. An intergovernmental organization is a type of international organization, but not all international organizations are intergovernmental organizations. --Sarisal (talk) 16:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
IGOs are different than international agencies. IGOs are composed of member states with official government representatives who speak for their country. International organizations do not have the same type of representatives. They are typically private citizens and do not represent their countries on an official level. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:4041:12D:6C00:31A2:707C:6C37:DFD5 (talk) 19:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Merger proposal
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- To merge Intergovernmental organization into International organization as synonyms; merge to the more common and broader term. Klbrain (talk) 09:36, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
I propose to merge Intergovernmental organization into International organization. The latter is by far the more common and encompassing term. The existence of multiple articles on virtually the same topic is harmful to the construction of well-written and well-sourced articles because editor efforts are diluted across multiple articles. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:18, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- On the face of it from an IR perspective the two terms are not interchangeable but probably not deserving of different pages. Whatever utility this distinction might have had would be better provided in Non-state actor which looks like it needs a fair bit of TLC. BlurryOne (talk) 11:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Not an improvement. 2001:8003:9008:1301:F90F:F631:8B8C:345F (talk) 12:58, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Support this merge makes sense to me, they look so much the same. Catfurball (talk) 20:48, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Note to closer please do not close this discussion, the person who added the merger template forgot to add it to the other article. I have just added it to the other article today. Catfurball (talk) 20:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
The classifications are a bit muddled here. Perhaps International organization could become a disambiguation page, linking to:
The material on International organization could be move to whichever of those pages best fit, with minimal text kept to aid the DAB.Klbrain (talk) 13:37, 26 September 2022 (UTC)- International organization is by far the most common term used for "Intergovernmental organizations" and is not immediately synonymous with "International non-governmental organization". In my view, it would be a mistake to make International organization as the disambiguation page while making "Intergovernmental organization" as the main page for the concept that IO refers to in 95% of cases. When scholars talk about NGOs and non-state actors, they don't say they are IOs. When scholars talk about international organizations, they don't distinguish between international organizations and intergovernmental organizations. Thenightaway (talk) 14:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Good points. Happy to change to support merge as initially proposed; that is, Intergovernmental organization into International organization due to overlap or duplication. Klbrain (talk) 05:40, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- International organization is by far the most common term used for "Intergovernmental organizations" and is not immediately synonymous with "International non-governmental organization". In my view, it would be a mistake to make International organization as the disambiguation page while making "Intergovernmental organization" as the main page for the concept that IO refers to in 95% of cases. When scholars talk about NGOs and non-state actors, they don't say they are IOs. When scholars talk about international organizations, they don't distinguish between international organizations and intergovernmental organizations. Thenightaway (talk) 14:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 09:36, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: International and Comparative Public Management
[edit]This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 26 January 2022 and 14 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Htetnaingoo9 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: RPIRED, PeaceProsperityDemocracy.
— Assignment last updated by PeaceProsperityDemocracy (talk) 13:44, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Unclear introduction
[edit]Is an organization a stable set of norms rules? I don't think so. CyberOne25 (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. In my view, the deeper problem may be that the page is called international organization, despite treating international organizations (note the extra s). By offering the alternative definition, someone is probably trying to point out that there can be a lot of organization without organizations (for example, a norm does not necessarily need an organization to support it).
- Perhaps the cleanest solution would be to point out this fact, and then leaving a pointer to the broader page on "Global governance" for international organization beyond organizations. (Of course, that page has some problems of its own, but I think it's a decent complement to the present page.)
- If this solution is too radical, I would suggest that "an international organization is a stable set of norms" is replaced either by "international organization comprises a set of norms" or "international institutions comprise a set of norms". Tore62 (talk) 12:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Political science
[edit]What is international organisation 2409:40E7:69:5010:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 06:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
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