Talk:Indica (Megasthenes)

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Copied from Wapedia. Pisharov (talk) 22:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

This article would be the opposite of copying, because it is Wapedia's source. Wapedia is a digest of Wikipedia! The copypaste is in error, and must be removed. Fconaway (talk) 08:15, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The Greek Name

Is Ἰνδικά correct? Isn't it supposed to be the same as Arrian's Ινδική? Liadmalone (talk) 16:47, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Due weight

@Mithilanchalputra7: nice that you invoke WP:DUEWEIGHT for this edit; as you know by now, Aria was not part of Chandragupta's territory, eastern Afghanistan is highly doubtfull, and even the southern Indus Valley is disputed. Why don't you just quit these megalomanic fantasies? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 08:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@Joshua Jonathan You need to stop changing contents with a few sources and their fringe ideas. Mithilanchalputra(Talk) 08:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

No, you need stopping this nationalistic pov-pushing, including this framework of "a few sources and their fringe ideas." The city of Aria being handed over to Chadragupta, that's fringe, except in the fantasies of some dreamers. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@Joshua Jonathan Nationalist? I have problem with Kabul. Mithilanchalputra(Talk) 11:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Kabul is not exactly lying next to the Indus, is it? The map you created doesn't have any sources, by the way. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 14:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Can you correct your map Mithilanchalputra(Talk) 14:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@Mithilanchalputra7 I don’t know how many times this is going to be repeated. You should know how consensus works by now because it’s been explained to you several times back to back. STOP adding disputed content prior to attaining consensus. You’re not even supposed to be reverting this change once it gets disputed. And yet this policy(ONUS) has been disregarded every time it’s been brought up. Have you looked at BRD? (BOLD REVERT DISCUSS). It’s bold revert discuss, not bold, revert, revert. Someguywhosbored (talk) 15:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

You are one adding map which hasnt used a single time on this page Mithilanchalputra(Talk) 15:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I’m just gonna try to explain this to you one more time as thoroughly as I possibly can. Because there is seriously so much going wrong here.

“4 years is very long again consensus was to keep both map and hole version was about Ashoka how you know about Chandragupta”

The map hasn’t even been here for 4 years. In fact the holes map actually was the one in use prior to when a user randomly added the other map(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indica_(Megasthenes)&oldid=1140900139). So yes it was actually in use. The time itself isn’t actually relevant. What’s important is that the map attains consensus. If it didn’t prior to being added into the article, than once it gets disputed by another user, than your not supposed to be adding it again.

Also you do realize that Joshua had already fixed the problem regarding the maps date?(Chandraguptas era instead of Ashoka), so that’s not even a concern.

“ You are one adding map which hasnt used a single time on this page”

Outside of the fact that I’ve just shown an edit where the holes map was in use, this is another point I’ve already detailed for you. Community consensus overrules local consensus. So if there was already a wider consensus(in this case, the holes map, which had far more participants who determined its suitability for the article), than we go by what the broader community says. We don’t go by local consensus.

“Consensus among a limited group of editors, at one place and time, cannot override community consensus on a wider scale.”

Wikipedia:Verifiability#Verifiability does not guarantee inclusion

“Wikipedia:Consensus dos and don'ts”

“Don't use local consensus to ignore wider consensus”

Again, I also explained this in the past to you and other users. So you should already know this.

I just want to point out the fact that I’ve basically just repeated my previous points over to you again because for some reason you keep bringing up arguments that have already been answered.

At this stage, you should know what you’re doing is wrong. Policy has been repeated to you verbatim. If you’re going to keep continuing this disruption, then I might have to bring this to “Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents”(not for edit warring, but for constantly ignoring consensus and policy). I really don’t want to have to report you. I’d much rather you understood how policy actually works. But this disruption needs to stop. It’s been continuing for multiple months. And no matter how many times policies and guidelines have been brought up, you’ve ignored them. So what happens now depends on whether you will continue to disrupt the article or not.Someguywhosbored (talk) 16:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

The 'holes-map' was added diff at 5 march 2020. This edit (1 september 2023), by a blocked user, replaced the 'holes-map' with a horrible map. This edit replaced it again, with another horrible map. This edit, then, replaced it with solid mass map made by Avantiputra7. That, in turn, was replaced at 6 june 2024 diff with the brown-blue map, which is also inaccurate. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 06:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Joshua Jonathan I didn't know that Mithilanchalputra(Talk) 08:48, 24 December 2024 (UTC)