Talk:Indian ice cream (Canada)

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Dessert

Wow. Nine months and ten edits and no one noticed that the article called Indian ice-cream a desert? emw 04:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indian ice-creams (Alaskan and Canadian)

Two Indian ice-creams:

1. Canadian Indian Ice-cream (in Turkish Wikipedia: tr:Sxusem) = sxusem

2. Alaskan Indian Ice-cream (in Turkish Wikipedia: tr:Kızılderili dondurması) = nivagi (Dena'ina language), vanhgiq (Deg Xinag language), nathdlod (Holikachuk language), nonaaldlode (Koyukon language), nemaje (Upper Kuskokwim language), nonathdlodi (Lower Tanana language), nanehdlaad’ (Tanacross language), it’suh (Gwich'in language)

--Kmoksy (talk) 22:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Ice-cream is two meanings:

in Alaska (most common): Indian Ice-cream of Alaskan Athabaskans is for tr:Kızılderili dondurması (not page en-wiki). Alaskan Native names: Dena’ina nivagi; Deg Xinag vanhgiq; Holikachuk nathdlod; Koyukon nonaaldlode; Upper Kuskokwim nemaje; Lower Tanana nonathdlodi; Tanacross nanehdlaad’; Gwich'in it’suh
in British Columbia, Canada (common?): Indian Ice-cream of First Nations is for tr:Sxusem (this en-wiki page): Used for Shepherdia canadensis berry and its creams in Canadian native languages of First Nations: Klallam sx̣ʷásəm; Sənčáθən (Saanich) sx̣ʷesəm [berry] sx̣ʷəsəmiɬč [bush]; Secwepemc (Western Shuswap) sxúsem; Secwepemctsin (Eastern Shuswap) sxúse; Nłeʔkepmxcin sx̣ʷúsm; Northern St̕át̕imcets xúsum, sxúsum [berry] xúsumaz̓ [bush] tew̓p [soapberry juice whipped into foam/foam/any liquid that foams], túw̓en [soapberry (to foam)(to whip up soapberry juice (to make foam))]; Ditidaht x̣ʷaasim; Tla’amin (Sliammon; dialect of Comox) xwosom; Ktunaxa kupaʔtiǂ; Sekani (Kwadacha Tsek’ene dialect) nisghwush; Chilcotin (Xeni Gwet’in dialect) nuŵɨsh; Dakelh (Nadleh Whut’en dialect) nawus.

--Kmoksy (talk) 20:00, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2016 UBC FNH 200 102 Project: Outline

Below is the outline for our project, with some sources listed. All headings and sources are tentative and will be updated with additional scholarly sources and oral traditions upon a meeting with Aboriginals at The X̱wi7x̱wa Library.

the numbers in parentheses refer to the referenced articles*

1.Ingredients/recipe (4)

 a.list of ingredients
 b.function of each ingredient in Sxusem
 c.variation in recipes

2.Indian Ice Cream

 a.History (aboriginal center)

3.Soapberry (7) Izzy

 a.Definition 
 b.History 
 c.Uses

4.Saponins (5,6)

 a.Definition
 b.Functions
 c.Role in Sxusem
 d.Other applications

5.Harvesting process (2)

 a.Size
 b.Color
 c.Taste

6.Crushing process (14)

 a.Texture of inside
 b.Blending
 c.Extracting

7.Whipping process -- Importance of oil free (2)

 a.Method
 b.Order of ingredients
 c.Efficiency/Consistency

8.Sweeteners (fireweed (9,10,12), camas bulb (11), salal berries (12,13), thimbleberries (12), cane sugar (11))

 a.Fireweed (9,10,12)
 b.Camas Bulb (11)
 c.Salal Berries (12, 13)
 d.Thimbleberries (12)
 e.Cane Sugar (1)

9.Over consumption (2)

 a.Shared resource with wildlife 
 b.Health Risks: Digestive concerns

10.Colloidal dispersion (4,9)

11. Additional Uses

 a.Health benefits
 b.Hygienic purposes: detergent

Sources

1.https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Indian_ice_cream_%28Canada%29

2.http://essentialstuff.org/index.php/2010/08/14/Cat/sxusem-indian-ice-cream/

3.http://juneauempire.com/stories/060808/loc_288002266.shtml#.Vqvd_1LlwxI

4.https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Indian_Ice_Cream

5.http://apps.webofknowledge.com.ezproxy.library.ubc.ca/full_record.do?product=WOS&search_mode=GeneralSearch&qid=3&SID=4BpcmroKojDJZ8bzvbW&page=1&doc=3

6.http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.ezproxy.library.ubc.ca/doi/10.1002/9780470686607.ch12/summary;jsessionid=F78C074C74EA771ADDD7F09DA5247F10.f04t03?primaryCompoundsResultsPerPage=250

7.http://gw2jh3xr2c.search.serialssolutions.com/?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&ctx_enc=info%3Aofi%2Fenc%3AUTF-8&rfr_id=info:sid/summon.serialssolutions.com&rft_val_fmt=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:book&rft.genre=book%20item&rft.title=Remarkable+Plants+of+Texas%3A+Uncommon+Accounts+of+Our+Common+Natives&rft.atitle=Soapberry&rft.date=2009-01-01&rft.isbn=9780292793293&rft.spage=95&rft.epage=97&rft.externalDocID=1366800032&paramdict=en-US

8.https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Foam

9.https://books.google.ca/books?id=fPDErXqH8YYC&pg=PA216&dq=fireweed+as+sweetener&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQjfmb8N7KAhUT3WMKHR-3A1YQ6AEIOjAE#v=onepage&q=fireweed%20as%20sweetener&f=false

10.https://www.wildsnow.com/10386/backcountry-fireweed-syrup-recepie/

11.http://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/camas/#.VrOsD2QrLq0

12.https://books.google.ca/books?id=fPDErXqH8YYC&pg=PA162&dq=salal+berries+as+sweetener&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHwozq8d7KAhVBKWMKHXdQBtcQ6AEINDAF#v=onepage&q=indian%20ice%20cream&f=false

13.https://books.google.com.my/books?id=h5FrgwZwx1wC&printsec=frontcover&dq=thimbleberry+as+sweetener+for+sxusem&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEj6m49d7KAhVBIWMKHaoaAKcQ6AEIIzAA#v=onepage&q=indian%20ice%20cream&f=false

14.http://www.google.com/patents/US20130130329 EatFNH200 (talk) 21:18, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Instructions

Moved out of the entry because WP:NOTHOWTO. -sche (talk) 01:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Home canning instructions

First wash and drain the berries. Add a small amount of water just to cover, but do not add any sugar. Boil the berries until they break and juice comes out. Then pack immediately into pre-boiled jars, each leaving a half inch head space. If preparing 1 pint of berries, process 10 minutes, and if quarts, use 15 minutes ^[1]

Sun drying instructions

Put ripe berries in a basket filled with heated rocks. Then set the berries on a layer of timbergrass on a scaffolding to sun dry. Light a small fire beneath the scaffold to drive away insects contaminating sun drying area. Soak in water and whip to prepare the ice cream.^[2]

References

^ Canada. Medical Services Branch, Vancouver Cablevision (1974). Indian Food: a cookbook of native foods from British Columbia. Vancouver, British Columbia: Health and Welfare Canada, Medical Service.
^ Cite error: The named reference :2 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

Hypokalkemia?

There’s a section that says the saponins can cause “hypokalkemia,” and it’s linked to “hypokalemia” (low potassium in blood), but since it’s written with an extra ‘k,’ I’m not sure if it’s really hypokalemia or hypocalcemia (low calcium) (since the c’s could be changed into k’s, since in Greek both are kappas. So, is it hypokalemia or hypocalcemia?

--177.10.14.102 (talk) 08:52, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Title and Article Photo

The subtitle of this article needs to be fixed. It currently reads:

Indian ice cream (Canada) Consumption of feces

In addition, the article title photo shows a fly sitting on shit. 2601:645:C580:2E70:D47E:9A36:3763:DD9F (talk) 03:47, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[:3-1] Canada. Medical Services Branch, Vancouver Cablevision (1974). Indian Food: a cookbook of native foods from British Columbia. Vancouver, British Columbia: Health and Welfare Canada, Medical Service.

[:2-2] Cite error: The named reference :2 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

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