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Nominator: Magentic Manifestations (talk · contribs) 05:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 23:11, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)

Hi, Thanks for taking this up for review. Please feel free to address minor concerns as you deem necessary. If you have additional comments which need to be addressed, I will address them once you complete a particular section/topic. It will be marked as done post the same. Cheers! M2 (talk) 09:45, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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  • Almost all "I estimate about 85%" of the sources are simply statistics based items. Whilst these are helpful, we shouldn't be citing items just to statistics, but actual third party sources that talk about the situation. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not getting what you are referring to here. For statistics such as runs/wickets, there are corresponding sources which state that, which is probably about 10% of the citations. May be about 50% of the citations are scorecards and fixture results. Being an article about cricket, I guess most of the citations are going to be either scorecards, statistics or results, predominantly from Cricinfo, which is a reliable third party source. I do not see a problem with that as most cricket articles use similar sources. For statistics, why should a source stating that "xxx took highest number of wickets" should be better than a statistic table which specifies the same, if that is what you are meaning to say. If you can provide me examples, it will help me to work on what exactly is required here. Thanks! M2 (talk) 05:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not that those sources are bad, but I'd expect to see more match summaries or overviews in the list. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For the recent CWCs, most of the sources would be summaries or overviews. For the old matches, important events had news articles/summaries, but summaries for individual matches might not be available online. So we go with archived scorecards. Will see if it can be extended based on availability. M2 (talk) 11:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Times of India and Economic Times are listed as being situational sources on WP:RSP. What makes them suitable here? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Done. As per WP:TOI, I can understand it needs to be taken with caution in contentious issues. As far as the two instances here, it is used to denote cricketing event results, which are not contentious. Still, I have gone ahead and added additional other reliable sources for them, as they are available. M2 (talk) 06:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • So, I do have a problem with WP:EASTEREGG links and the difference between the Indian Cricket team and India the country. In the lede you say "India is one" and link to the cricket team. However, India itself isn't a member, simply the team that represents them. On first usage (especially when you link) you should say "The Indian cricket team", rather than just India (also true for all other countries). Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:13, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
ICC had only six full members in 1975, which keeps on varying. Being a general article covering the history, wouldn't it be misleading? M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think saying there was only six in 1975 and 12 today is quite a good piece of info. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do understand that, but not sure about the relevancy. CWC has participants from both full members and associates, which had varied in number across editions. If this history is indeed required, not sure how to capture this, any ideas would be welcome. May be I can add a background section on the history of the world cups per se.M2 (talk) 11:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Tweaked it. M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Indian team captained by Srinivasaraghavan Venkataraghavan won a single match across the first two editions in 1975 and 1979 - things like this would benefit from having the events first. I also think the word "only a single match" would benefit here, as I read it as they won one single match in each event. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Tweaked it. M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kapil Dev led India to victory in the 1983 edition, thereby becoming the second team ever to lift the World Cup after the West Indies - thereby isn't very helpful here as we haven't mentioned the West Indies before this. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:24, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Modified the sentence.M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Expanded it.M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
 Done.
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 Done. Modified it.M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dhoni is spelt as Dhoni? What is wrong with the name? M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It MS Dhoni, not M S Dhoni Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. M2 (talk) 11:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Did not lose a match till the final. Modified it to be cleared. M2 (talk) 06:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.

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