Talk:Ikhshidid dynasty

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List_of_Turkic_dynasties_and_countries#Middle_East Seygir (talk) 16:08, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Map

The map here contradicts the one at Makuria, which cites its sources. To quote Shinne, Medieval Nubia, 1954:

By the middle of the tenth century, hostilities had again broken out with Egypt. The Nubians invaded that country and, benefiting from the state of disorder there, reached, in the year AD 962, as far as the town of Akhmim, and for a time controlled Upper Egypt, at least to the north of Edfu. The discovery there of Nubian documents in the monastery of St Mercurios suggests that it had become a centre of Nubian culture.

Perhaps it was a little more complicated in Upper Egypt and Lower Nubia in the 950s and 960s. To quote Y. F. Hasan, The Arabs and the Sudan, p. 91

The Nubians launched three attacks on Egypt during the last three decades of the Ikhshidid regime, which was showing signs of weakness on account of the repeated attacks of the Fatimids and the Carmathians, and the famines resulting from low Nile floods. They were perhaps incited to do so by the Fatimmids, since their incursions would distract the Ikhshidids from concentrating their efforts on the western front against which the Fatimid offensive was to be launched. In 951 the Nubian king attacked the Kharja Oasis and returned with a number of captives after killing many people. Five years later he raided Aswan and killed a number of Muslims. In retaliation, an Egyptian army led by Muhammad ibn Abdallah al-Khazin drove back the Nubians as far as Ibrim which was captured in 957. The Muslims returned with a great number of captives. This defeat did not put and end to the Nubian threat, which was again renewed in 960 when they marched down to Ikhmim. In the few remaining years before Egypt was conquered by the Fatimids, nothing was heard of Nubia.

The map struck me as ludicrous in showing Ikhshidid control extending to the border of Darfur, but then I noticed it showed basically all of Makuria under its control, which was certain not the case. It seems, at best, that the Ikhshidids led a major raid deep into Nobadia (northern Makuria), but this was no more and probably less than what the Makurians had done to them in Upper Egypt. Srnec (talk) 00:39, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec: Agreed, that map is awful. Sadly, Wikimedia doesn't have many good maps showing the Ikhshidid realm, so I added the best we've got. LeGabrie (talk) 14:17, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]