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Reviewer: Basilisk4u (talk · contribs) 06:01, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey! I loved this episode, so I will review this article. Basilisk4u (talk) 06:01, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]- Lead
- Add a sentence about critical reception in the lead
- Since there is only one direct review referenced in the "Reception and impact" section, and another favorable mention from the same author (and I can't find any more reviews), I don't know how to write a sentence that would paint a genuine picture about the episode's reception. Any suggestions? --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I searched the episode on the online database Proquest, and I found a quote from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that can be added to the reception: you could say The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette praised the episode's ending, explaining "OK, putting him on a freight train to Nebraska might not have been the best idea, but all's well in the end, and Kyle and the boys learn a lesson about family values that even Dan Quayle would approve of." If you are interested, I will add it in with the sourcing since I couldn't find a link to it online. I think having these in the article is enough to warrant a short "The episode received positive reviews from critics" in the lead. Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip, I found the article! I added the following sentence to the lead: "'Ike's Wee Wee' received positive responses from fans, as well as critics who especially praised the episode for its touching moments." I expanded this sentence further in the "Reception and impact" section, and added the info from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article there as well. --Mondotta (talk) 16:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- I searched the episode on the online database Proquest, and I found a quote from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that can be added to the reception: you could say The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette praised the episode's ending, explaining "OK, putting him on a freight train to Nebraska might not have been the best idea, but all's well in the end, and Kyle and the boys learn a lesson about family values that even Dan Quayle would approve of." If you are interested, I will add it in with the sourcing since I couldn't find a link to it online. I think having these in the article is enough to warrant a short "The episode received positive reviews from critics" in the lead. Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Since there is only one direct review referenced in the "Reception and impact" section, and another favorable mention from the same author (and I can't find any more reviews), I don't know how to write a sentence that would paint a genuine picture about the episode's reception. Any suggestions? --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Plot
- "Mackey is given a joint, and later tries out some LSD." Given a joint by who?
- Rewrote sentence to: "A desperate Mackey gives in to trying cannabis, and later, LSD." Is this better? --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- "Upon discovering this, Kyle decides that Ike is not his 'real brother' and he no longer cares about him. Kenny dies at this point when he falls into an empty grave and is crushed by a gravestone. His parents are shocked by what has happened, and Ike is retrieved from Nebraska." The part about Kenny makes these sentences a bit confusing. It sounds as though Kenny's parents are shocked by what has happened. You would think they would be used to Kenny dying by now ;)
- Removed sentence about Kenny's death, as it is not an important plot point. --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Section looks fine now. Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Removed sentence about Kenny's death, as it is not an important plot point. --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Production
- I have no complaints! Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Broadcast
- "However, following overwhelming negative fan reaction..." Change to "overwhelmingly negative"
- Done. --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- "In an article, Doug Herzog, who was president of Comedy Central at the time, had talked about watching a certain South Park episode on television that contained an uncensored occurrence of 'the most common of sexual obscenities', because the network received the episode only that day and it was rushed to air. He mentioned having been worried about protests from viewers, but admitted that the network 'didn't even get one call'. It is possible that Herzog was discussing this particular incident in 'Ike's Wee Wee'." This part seems a bit ambiguous, and I do not think the source given for the possibility that he is discussing this episode is reliable.
- Removed this paragraph. --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Themes
- Great!
- Cultural references
- "...people watching Teletubbies while high on marijuana or on rehab." change to "in rehab".
- Done. --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sourcing
- References 21, 24, 27, and 29 are not reliable.
- True. (Also, #20 should be unreliable too by that measure.) However, without these references, basically the whole paragraph about the word bullshit would be left without any citations. Any suggestions? (I left these in for the time being.) --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hmmm. I think that if there are no reliable sources for the incident, it is probably not notable enough to be in the article. Sorry about that :( Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oh well. I removed the paragraph. I moved it to the talk page, under the section "Censorship", for future reference. --Mondotta (talk) 16:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- True. (Also, #20 should be unreliable too by that measure.) However, without these references, basically the whole paragraph about the word bullshit would be left without any citations. Any suggestions? (I left these in for the time being.) --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Reference 44 is not reliable and does not seem to be needed anyway, since the statement is sourced with reference 43.
- Removed #44, and also fixed #43, which is no longer a dead link. (I also archived it using WebCite.) --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Awesome! Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Removed #44, and also fixed #43, which is no longer a dead link. (I also archived it using WebCite.) --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Make sure all references have the publishers listed.
- I have added publisher for the Beatles book. Could you please point out if you see any other reference without the necessary info? --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- The magazine and newspaper references also need publishers, they are references 5, 8, 13, 15, and 16. Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I have added publisher information for these. I hope that the data I gave is right. I found it difficult to locate this information. --Mondotta (talk) 16:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- The magazine and newspaper references also need publishers, they are references 5, 8, 13, 15, and 16. Basilisk4u (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I have added publisher for the Beatles book. Could you please point out if you see any other reference without the necessary info? --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay I have finished my review and put it on hold. Good work and good luck! Basilisk4u (talk) 17:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you very much for reviewing the article. I have addressed some of your points, and gave my comments, including some questions. Cheers! --Mondotta (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I feel that my concerns have been addressed. Thank you for your fast responses, and keep up the good work! I have passed the article. Congrats! Basilisk4u (talk) 06:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! Hope to work with you on the future. In case you're itching to review further South Park articles, I also nominated Pip (South Park) for GA. :) --Mondotta (talk) 11:01, 31 January 2012 (UTC)