Talk:Hymenocarina

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Cladogram

Sorry @Iezer: about reverting your addition of a cladogram, my problem is that the cladograms are extremely inconsistent between studies, for instance another study from 2022 by the same authors comes to a completely different result, and doesn't even find Hymenocarina to be monophyletic. Picking any one cladogram to be the "consensus" result when there appears to be none seems like a futile effort. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:45, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, don't worry, I understand that the phylogeny of hymenocarines and several other groups has always been inconsistent, both internally and externally. Likewise it makes no sense to add cladograms for taxa that have that problem, sorry for that. Iezer (talk) 21:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, what do you think of this cladogram from the Japanese Wikipedia? Iezer (talk) 21:41, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It obviously has very low resolution with many polytomies, which makes sense given the many controversies regarding the positions of various arthropod groups. However, I question why Hexapoda would be placed as a separate group from Crustacea, given that Hexapoda is nested within Crustacea in basically all modern molecular phylogenies. Also, it presumes hymenocarine monophyly, which is far from settled. Honestly, I really don't think it really adds anything over having no cladogram at all. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:56, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]