Talk:Hunky Dory/Archive 1

Archive 1

Suggestion

Could we have perhaps a little more on the input from the various band members? I am in particular thinking of the late Mick "Ronno" Ronson. Ronno was an integral component of this album. I think many DB fans rate the Ronno/DB relationship at this time as producing amongst the strongest work of both artists. So I think Ronno needs a wee bit more of a mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.103.4 (talk) 19:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Move

This article needs moving. The album is titled on the common-ish English idiom of hunky dory meaning "ok". The idiom should be the main article, as it is the original usage of the term.

I would tend to agree. I certainly came to this page looking up "hunky dory" (the idiom). I think it is appropriate to either have a disambiguation page, or to link to "Hunky Dory (album)" within a subsection of the main article explaining the etymology of the term. dot Tom (talk) 04:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

How this idiom came about is debatable. The etymology may or may not be known, but it apparently derives from the name of a road in Tokyo (dori = street in Japanese) that Allied troops frequented during the occupation of Japan after WW2, presumably a red light district.

The term is in somewhat frequent usage in the UK, and perhaps elsewhere (unknown to me). Anon. - unsigned comment by 218.102.181.20 on 23:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed "move" because not added to Wikipedia:Requested moves and no alternative name suggested.

It doesn't matter what the name of the page is. If Hunky Dory is the name of Captain Ahab's first boat and (more to the point) it was the first article of this name on Wikipedia, it would be called Hunky Dory and this one Hunky Dory (album).

The etymology of the term is interesting, but not to the point - Wikitionary is the place. hunky dory Fantailfan 10:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Bowie paying tribute to Andy Warhol and Bob Dylan

In the article it says:

"However, the composer also took time to pay tribute to his influences in the songs "Song for Bob Dylan", "Andy Warhol"".

Maybe this sentence should be rephrased, it looks to the cursory reader as if David Bowie is paying tribute to Bob Dylan and Andy Warhol, while this maybe is not the case.

Examples:

Superseventies: "Fellow artists are not spared -- listen to "Fill Your Heart Andy Warhol" and "Song For Bob Dylan""

Sputnikmusic: "The song Andy Warhol is a short look inside the mind of pop artist Andy Warhol, who has his name put to this song, which contains an almost quickstep-like riff in the introduction, the lyrics describe how Warhol "Dressed his friends up just for show, see them as they really are" the lyrics then go on to say how obsessed Warhol was with his work "He'll think about paint and he'll think about blue, what a jolly boring thing to do"" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.125.156.44 (talk • contribs) 10:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think "pay tribute to his influences" is quite the same as saying that he's paying uncritical tribute to the guys themselves. In any case most Bowie commentators contend that Warhol and Dylan were major influences on him. If you feel the phrasing "took time to acknowledge his influences" works better than "took time to pay tribute to his influences", I'd have no argument with that ch-ch-change. Cheers, Ian Rose 14:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

Hunky Dory (album) → Hunky Dory — redundant disambig, Hunky Dory is a redirect to Hunky Dory (album) PEJL 14:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

• Support Yes, why not? It was obviously moved from 'Hunky Dory' to 'Hunky Dory (album)' at some stage without any consensus and nobody (including me) noticed or took action at the time. Even if works in other media used the name this will always be the obvious 'Hunky Dory' without need of any disambiguation. Cheers, Ian Rose

This article has been renamed from Hunky Dory (album) to Hunky Dory as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 18:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

release/recording dates

as currently written, this album was released before it was recorded!

anyone know the right dates? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.90.156.235 (talk) 03:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

God help us, you're right - don't know when the wrong date crept in but sorted now. Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

my bad (light touch on keyboard). I changed 'wikidate' [[17 December]] [[1971]] to {{start date|1971|1|17}} instead of {{start date|1971|12|17}} Fantailfan (talk) 11:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Genre(s)

Glam rock is not a genre that can be associated with a certain sound it is a preformance style, therefore it cannot be the genre of an album. We should just stick with Art Rock. This has happened with The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars --Wiki Factualizor (talk) 02:00, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

What reference do you have that says this? The page for Glam rock itself describes it as a subgenre of rock music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.192.248.159 (talk) 23:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Homo Superior

The homo superior page doesn't really reflect the idea of Nietzsche, a future man that abandons slave morality and creates his own values without nihilism nor the guilt or shame of christianity. Might be better to say homo superior and then mention a reference to a linked page of Zarathustra or Overman. Gyuen (talk) 23:28, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation is required for 'hunky dory'

This article used to have disambiguation, but that has been removed at some point.

I believe that disambiguation is required, because most people do not realise that "hunky dory" is a nautical term, derived from a street named Honki-Dori, in the port of Yokohama in Japan, where the locals were said to have made sure sailors had a good time. Big Mac (talk) 23:02, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Hunky Dory/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements: Y All the start class criteria Y A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details Y At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section) Y A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs N A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians Y Categorisation at least by artist and year Y A casual reader should learn something about the album. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 23:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 14:59, 1 May 2016 (UTC)