Talk:Human trafficking in Greece

Editing and Restructuring the current page

The current article has been flagged for multiple issues, including lack of neutrality and depending too much on a single source. The current page draws its information entirely from the 2010 Trafficking in Persons Report from the U.S.Department of State, which could lead to a large bias. The current article is not very thorough. It also needs general cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.

I plan on fixing these issues by thoroughly and systematically exploring human trafficking in Greece by restructuring and rewriting the current page and adding a substantial amount of new material from a variety of reputable sources. I plan on organizing the new material into a much more reader-friendly format. Additionally, as the current article draws from a single source, it looks at human trafficking in Greece solely from a legal perspective, so I plan on broadening the current scope of the article to other important aspects of human trafficking in Greece, such as types of trafficking in Greece, causes and driving factors of trafficking in Greece, current governmental anti-trafficking efforts, and critiques of that effort.

Currently, the page is divided into three sections, "Prosecution", "Protection", and "Prevention". These three TIP terms are important but by no means all-encompassing; I plan on moving them under the heading "Governmental Anti-Trafficking Efforts" and updating and revising the information currently in those sections. Additionally, I plan to start with "Overview of Human Trafficking" that will briefly define human trafficking in general and introduce the issue in Greece. Next, "Destinations" will cover the importance of Greece as both a final destination for trafficked victims and as a transit country and gateway to the rest of the EU. Following this section would be a section that looks at the profile of the typical victim in Greece in terms of origins, SES, age, gender, etc. "Traffickers" will profile the typical perpetrator of human trafficking in Greece. "Contributing Factors to Trafficking" will look at the historical, political, and socio-cultural factors that contribute to trafficking in Greece, such as the impact of the fall of the Soviet Union, Greece's membership in the EU and shared borders with Turkey, problems with illegal immigration, and a high level of xenophobia in Greece. Next will come the "Governmental Anti-Trafficking Efforts" heading, under which the current "Prosecution", "Protection", and "Prevention" headings will be found, with substantial revisions to include the specific legislation in Greece working to combat trafficking. "NGO Anti-Trafficking Efforts" will then look at specific nonprofit organizations in Greece and the roles they play in combating trafficking. Finally, "Remaining Challenges" will look at steps Greece still needs to take to be compliant with EU regulations regarding anti-trafficking, and the role the current economic crisis plays in anti-trafficking efforts.

This revision is part of an assignment for my class on Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities at Rice University in Houston, TX, as part of an effort to increase knowledge and awareness about various social and human rights issues by providing quality knowledge to the general public through Wikipedia. More information can be found by clicking the banner at the top of this post. Suggestions and critiques are welcome, I really want to contribute a quality page! Rachel.m.mitchell (talk) 05:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Welcome! Personally, your proposed outline looks great to me. According to our tools [1], this article gets several thousand views a year, so it's a shame that it's been allowed to fester in such a poor state. You'll be making a real contribution here by giving us a better article. Good luck, and let me know if there's anything I can do to help. Khazar2 (talk) 11:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Khazar2! I have made all the updates and changes and included hyperlinks and references as best as I can. I would really appreciate feedback on both the content and style of this piece to make sure I did everything according to Wikipedia's standards. Rachel.m.mitchell (talk) 21:01, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

The article looks really good to me. Articles uploaded for class projects often have a bad rap on Wikipedia, but this is one to be proud of--well-researched and encyclopedic in tone. A few further suggestions that you can take or leave:

1. The article is very focused on info and statistics from the last few years, but as an encyclopedic article, it would be better to cover the full history of the subject where possible, from Greece's independence on. If your sources don't cover that, no problem, but that's what the ideal article would eventually look like.
2. The flip side of this is some stats and info in the article may go out-of-date quickly. You might use the phrase "as of 2012" (or 2011, or whenever your source is from) for information that might change in the next 2-5 years; there's no telling when someone will be able to re-research and update this.
3. Just a minor grammar point, but I noticed it a few times; the pronoun for Greece should be "it", not "they". (The country of Greece is singular, its people plural, if that makes sense).

Thanks again for all your hard work on this, and best of luck with your class. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Peer Input

Hi Rachel! I think that this article is REALLY good. I enjoyed reading it and think that it is very well-written so I don't have any suggestions for improvement. Good luck with your assignment Lgriffin92 (talk) 01:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Human trafficking in Greece/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Delldot (talk · contribs) 02:19, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Rachel, thanks much for all the work you have put into this article! I'm not sure you're still around, I see you haven't edited since November. Are you still interested in working on this article and getting it up to GA standards? If so, great, I'll help however you need. It will probably need substantial work, but if you're willing to do it, great. I've just started with a few suggestions below, as you address these concerns, reply to each below the comment so we can discuss each point. I'll add more points as I go through the article and we refine the review. I'll wait a week and then if I don't hear from you by then I'll assume you're not working on it any more and fail this GA nom (which is not to say you can't work on it again at any point in the future). If you reply within the week we can take as long as you need to work on the article.

Here are some thoughts just to start out:

• "…does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking" What minimum standards? If they're from a specific internatinoal treaty or body, it should say "the UN's minimum standards" or whatever.

• As an encyclopedia article, the piece should avoid making commentary, so sentences like this should be reworded: "The government made clear progress in prosecuting labor and sex trafficking offenses, identifying victims, implementing a child victim protection agreement with Albania, and advancing prevention activities." The examples are great, it's the first part of the sentence, the "clear progress" that makes me feel like this could be the author inserting their opinion. Show don't tell, offer examples and let the reader conclude whether that was clear progress.

• "Global trade in women is estimated to be worth between 7 and 12 billion dollars annually" If this is US dollars that should be made explicit. We are writing for a global audience.

• "As of 2010, an estimated 270,000 people are trafficking annually in Europe" Should this be changed to "trafficked"?

• Images are recommended. Can you think of any type of image that could illustrate the article or any examples in it?

• These facts are already mentioned earlier in the article, no need to repeat (except in the lead): "Today, 50-55% of trafficking victims in Athens are from former Soviet bloc countries, and more than half of the women trafficked into Greece overall are estimated to be from Russia and Ukraine"

• More unnecessary repetition: "As a gateway to Western Europe, victims are often trafficked through Greece in order to reach other EU countries. Greece’s border with Turkey is also a hotspot for illegal immigrants looking to find their way into the European Union"

If at any point you want help working on it or any other article let me know. Thanks again for the huge improvement to the article with the high quality of research. I look forward to working with you this week or at some point in the future. delldot ∇. 02:21, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Delldot, I would love to keep working on this article and get it up to good article status. I have a crazy amount of work this semester so it may take me a little while to get around to some of the more major edits, but I would like to continue working on it. Also, i just want to warn you that I'm pretty new to Wikipedia and may miss some things on Talk Page etiquette or formatting type things on the page, but I'll do my best and hopefully can turn out a good article! Thanks, Rachel.m.mitchell (talk) 22:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Terriffic Rachel, I'm so glad. Take your time, there's no real deadline to this. I get busy in real life at times so this may be a gradual process indeed. No worries about being new, I can help however you need, or if I can't we can find someone who can. To start off, reply to each of the bulleted comments with an indented one below it to say how you've addressed it. delldot ∇. 23:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Any updates? Been over a month since the last one. Wizardman 14:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

On the nominator's talk page, the reviewer said "if you do respond within a week we can take as long as you want to work on it". I've now asked the nominator on her talk page, to update us here. -- Zanimum (talk) 16:18, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't have any problem with her taking her time, but if it is cluttering up the GAN page I also don't see any problem with taking this down for now and working with her outside of the GAN process as her schedule permits, then re-nomming whenever it's ready. She can still use this page to guide the initial steps. The only concern I would have is I wouldn't want it to be disappointing for her if we fail it for now since I did tell her she could take her time. delldot ∇. 22:49, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I have a few questions. I got permission to continue working on this page as the final assignment for a different (related) class I'm taking this semester, so I will now have dedicated time to begin working on the changes and improvements you listed about. However, as part of the class also, I am vastly expanding on what I wrote before. Last time I made significant additions in regards to sex trafficking in Greece; now I would like to add more information relating to forced labor, debt bondage, and domestic servitude, and focus on men in addition to women and children. Also, I would like to make sure that the updates I made last time are a bit more neutral by distancing them from U.S. based anti-prostitution rhetoric when necessary and including other opinions, and citing all of them in one way or another. Can I make these kinds of substantive content changes while still having the article be considered as a GA nominee? If not, I will of course work to implement the improvements you listed above, and then renomiate the article after I have updated more content. Please let me know what you think or how this changes the steps needing to be taken to recieve GA status. Thanks! Rachel.m.mitchell (talk) 05:56, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Great, I'm glad you plan to put so much more work into it. I think the additions you mentioned will be really valuable in rounding out the article and making it more comprehensive. I think it would be best to take this particular GA nom down for now, make the changes, then renominate later when you're done. "Stability" (i.e. not undergoing drastic changes) is one of the criteria for GA, so we wouldn't want it to be that much of a work in progress during a GA nom. If you'd like I can help out along the way and let you know when I think it's ready for renomination (if it's got a chance of passing it will get reviewed more quickly. On the other hand I'm probably more of a hardass than most GA reviewers so you can make your own decisions). I think since you seem ok with it and since others seem to want it taken down I will go ahead and fail this for now. Let me know what kind of help you need while working on it, I will probably not do anything until you ask me to. Peace, delldot ∇. 15:25, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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