Talk:Human systems engineering

CorenSearchBot is in error: no contents have been copied wheresoever., Christel Lennart Christel Lennart (talk) 18:45, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The term "Human Systems Engineering" was barely unknown, when the HES-SO started the program, this term was a creation of Prof. Muth, she coined it in 1998. Anyhow, this sequence of words cannot be protected (this had been checked by the HES-SO). Christel Lennart (talk) 18:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I explored the site indicated by CorenSearchBot thoroughly. My conclusion: there are not even similarities between my article "Human Systems Engineering" and the page indicated by the bot. Hence the bot needs some fixing ! Luzifera (talk) 13:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of the term

There are several definitions of "human systems engineering" but this article only describe one. Citing [1]: "Human Systems Engineering" is defined as the activities involved throughout the system life cycle that address the human element of system design" (IEEE 1220, 1998). These activities include the definition and synthesis of manpower, personnel, training, health hazards, safety issues, human factors, and any other issues addressing human activity within the system. This concept of the human systems engineering process, while consistent with traditional definitions of human factors and human systems integration,fully imbeds human engineering into the systems engineering process and employs common terminology. "

The IEEE 1220 standard, finalized in 1998, had thus defined the term "Human systems engineering" at the same time as Prof. Muth introduced it. Independently and with a different meaning, as the IEEE talks about designing systems with humans in mind, not re-designing human organisations themselves. This explains how MIT came to use the "Human systems engineering" term. EverGreg (talk)

Yup. This piece definitely needs to be completely rewritten.

I agree with the previous note. As written, this is an extremely parochial viewpoint and does not reflect the general field. It needs to be _completely_ rewritten and if necessary a pointer placed to the existing piece but under a different title. For example, here is an entire BS, MS, and PhD program in the field: https://poly.engineering.asu.edu/hse/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.124.202.248 (talk) 10:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with the two previous posts. This page is completely off the mark -

The links to MIT even go to Human Factors Engineering, and from there you can click on sub categories of current research in "human systems", in their human systems laboratory. Embry Riddle uses the term in its description of Human Factors. As as the last post stated ASU has bachelor, masters, and doctorate degrees in Human Systems Engineering (Human Factors). 2603:7080:8C00:E65:3048:85A5:B713:F059 (talk) 19:26, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]