Talk:Hotter than Hell (album)
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The part "Ace Frehley's image on the front cover is actually airbrushed, as a side of his face was injured in a car accident and was without makeup on the afflicted area at the time of the photo shoot." is incorrect. Ace was in full make-up at the photo shoot. Here you can see the photos from that session: Hotter than Hell Photo shoot
He was in half make-up at another session, probably after the one above. Maybe someone can correct the info in the article? English isn't my native language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.50.218 (talk) 12:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Actually that's true, the link you provided is dead but here can be seen the pictures you referenced: http://kissfansite.yuku.com/topic/1285/Hotter-Than-Hell-the-Photo-Shoot-and-Era?page=1#.UGy5Da5U2So. There can be seen pictures from both sessions and there is an Ace quote where he says that "For one photo session we did for the Hotter Than Hell album (...)", so we can assume there wasn't just one session. I think that this confirm that the picture in the cover isn't from the same session than the half-painted face, so i'll delete that part. Riffonline (talk) 22:26, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Kiss is NOT Proto-Punk
[edit]Just because you can find a citation from a critic that categorizes it into some genre does not mean that is true. I have never heard anyone call Kiss proto-punk. Considering that Kiss's music is laden with misogynist language that sexualizes women and speaks from a traditional masculine point of view, it should not be considered punk-like at all. A musical genre is not merely a sonic or visual choice, it has a political stance of some sort. Punk audiences tend not to view the world is the same way that hard rock or what is now known as "classic rock" does. They tend to have more progressive attitudes than Kiss portrays in their performances. If anything, punk replaced sex with violence in many instances. Moreover, punk already existed by the time Kiss went mainstream. Kiss members were hyped as rock heroes, and did not portray themselves as "losers" or the average people as punk musicians had tendency to. Punk audiences did not adopt Kiss; they were more likely to have been repulsed by them (just as Kiss fans were likely disdainful of punk).2603:7080:ED3F:2F00:D5ED:F189:5497:837B (talk) 01:45, 30 July 2023 (UTC)