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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by BlueMoonset (talk) 15:01, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Closing per withdrawal by nominator SL93 and agreement by reviewer Yoninah; issues have not been addressed.

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... that in 2019, Hope Runs High started theatrically re-releasing documentaries directed by Lee Grant, marking the first time many of the films have been exhibited in decades? "I'm Like History Passing By: An Interview With Lee Grant". December 4, 2019.

Reviewed: Do You Remember Kunan Poshpora?

Created by Lwottring (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 01:20, 14 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

New enough, long enough. QPQ Done. I tried to clean up the article to get it ready for a DYK Review. I just added the source for the hook above, @Lwottring: is that the right one? In any case, could you look at what I did and clean-up the article further. If you want all those subsections I suggest you add some more content to each of them. Also, there were way too many references for the amount of information you had there. Please give this a look and report back. --evrik ^(talk) 03:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: I'm not sure if Lwottring has any interest in coming back to Wikipedia because they haven't logged on in awhile. I will gave the editor time and if not, I will withdraw this nomination. SL93 (talk) 04:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SL93: Please advise. --evrik ^(talk) 13:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will withdraw this. SL93 (talk) 20:16, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to see this as a DYK. I see a number of the discussed edits have been made, what else needs to be amended to make this happen SL93? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lwottring (talk • contribs) 00:25, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at it tomorrow. I work tonight until late. SL93 (talk) 19:32, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: @Lwottring: The only problem I see is that the sentence "In 2019, Hope Runs High began to refocus on theatrical distribution, beginning with a limited theatrical re-release of documentaries by Lee Grant." is not currently referenced...although the article would be fine if that sentence was removed. SL93 (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Lwottring: @SL93: I'm going to ask that another editor take a look at this. I think the external links are too long. Aside from that I thinks its okay. --evrik ^(talk) 22:14, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha, thanks evrik, happy to go in and pull some citations if everyone thinks there are more than enough. I've added a citation for the line in question.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lwottring (talk • contribs) 18:36, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lwottring, please note that when you fail to sign your post, any ping you attempt (like to evrik just above) does not go through. Only when the ping and the sig are made at the same time will the ping go through to its attended recipient. As a general rule, all posts should be signed (using ~~~~). Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:25, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueMoonset: Can you give second opinion on this article? --evrik ^(talk) 23:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article appears to be in better shape, and well sourced. I'm a little concerned about editorializing, but the main issue is that the hook isn't all that interesting. The article suggests the company may be actively a distributor of LGBT+ films, could something be written on that? Kingsif (talk) 12:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1 ... that the film distribution company Hope Runs High preserves and distributes out of print documentaries, focusing on films by women, people of color, and LGBTQ+ filmmakers? https://www.hoperunshighfilms.com/films
Offering a new hook. --evrik ^(talk) 14:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removed extra comma, approving ALT1. Kingsif (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't see an inline cite for the ALT1 hook fact, nor can I find it in any sources. Yoninah (talk) 21:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Done--evrik ^(talk) 20:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: thank you. But another cite from the organization's website? You know, this article comes across as extremely self-promotional. Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I have scoured the Internet, and I cannot find much written about the company. However, there is a lot written about the films that they feature. If you look at all the films they feature, it is a compendium of pieces on women LGBT and people of color. The hook is sourced, which is what you asked for, and mind you this is neither my article nor my nomination. If you would like, I can look at the article and see if I can come up with another hook.--evrik ^(talk) 21:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: it's very nice that you're working so hard on this, but what about the the original nominator and page creator? Yoninah (talk) 22:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would actually be fine with closing the nomination. SL93 (talk) 22:32, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I noticed you said this earlier, and other editors rushed in to take over. But the company is too new and has done so little that we really do need to wait until it gets more press. Marking for closure. Yoninah (talk) 23:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I liked this because of its focus on "women, people of color, and LGBTQ+ " --evrik ^(talk) 15:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: Me too. Yoninah (talk) 19:18, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to do more if necessary. Lwottring6 July 2020

@Lwottring:Can you source the hook? --evrik ^(talk) 17:43, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

evrik, Yoninah, Lwottring added five bare refs on July 13, though no mention was made of it here. Do any of them help with the hook sourcing issue? (If so, something further will need to be done: six refs in a row is excessive, and bare URLs have to be fixed before the nomination can be approved.) Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The refs added nothing, and I have removed. All the sources deal with films and not the company. If you look t the films in their totality, you can see that the sentence is true. The hook is sourced, but not to Yoninah's satisfaction. --evrik ^(talk) 22:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

External links

I took these out for the time being. Add them back in after this goes through the DYK process. --evrik ^(talk) 13:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Arts This Week: The Documentary Films of Lee Grant, Urbanity Dance And 'Boston Baroque Live'". News. May 7, 2020.
"Open Studio with Jared Bowen | Actor and Director Lee Grant, Lindon Beckford, and more... | Season 8 | Episode 38" – via www.pbs.org.
Brody, Richard. "What to Stream: Three Online Releases of Movies That Would Have Come to Theatres". The New Yorker.
"Film Forum · Film Forum Presents Virtual Cinema". Film Forum.
"Virtual Cinema". Emagine Entertainment.
"Ep 584: Lee Grant". Filmwax Radio.
Kenigsberg, Ben (December 12, 2019). "3 Film Series to Catch in N.Y.C. This Weekend" – via NYTimes.com.
Desk, BWW News. "Photo Flash: Academy Award Winner Lee Grant Shines at Hope Runs High's Opening Night Bash For Film Forum's Lee Grant: Actor. Filmmaker Series". BroadwayWorld.com. {{cite web}}: |last= has generic name (help)
"Hottest Celebrity Pics This Week Of Dec. 16-22: Kelly Ripa & More". December 16, 2019.
"Lee Grant at Film Forum | All Of It". WNYC.
"Actress and Filmmaker Lee Grant | Podcast | American Masters | PBS". American Masters.
Miller, Julie. "Legendary Oscar Winner Lee Grant on the Blacklist, Sex, Sexism, the Treatment of Renée Zellweger, and More". Vanity Fair.